Building a Ruck Club Community: Chad Haggerty from West Orange Ruckers

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don't do it by yourself. And when I say do it

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by yourself, I mean leading the club by yourself.

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Lean on other people because things are going

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to happen and you may not be able to go out.

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Like you might get injured and you can't go out

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for the next week or a month, you know, depending

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on what's happening. And so you have to find

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those people you can lean on that can help lead

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the rucks for you when you can't make it. Welcome

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to the Rutgers Edge podcast, a show all about

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rucking that is designed to help you develop

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a rucking routine, lose weight, and ultimately

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gain your strength and energy back. Whether you're

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an office worker with lower back pain, a fitness

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first -timer, or a new parent trying to get back

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to your pre -kid's weight, this is the show for

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you. I'm your host, Spencer, and today I sit

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down with Chad Haggerty, the founder of West

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Orange Ruckers. We talk about how a rucking routine

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that developed during COVID turned into a thriving

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ruck club. We dive into what it takes to start

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a local ruck club, how ruck clubs can give back

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to the community, and why the rucking mindset

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goes far beyond fitness. From community outreach

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to reflective rucks, inspired by Michael Easter's

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2 % mindset, this conversation is all about finding

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purpose through rucking. Chad also provides practical

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advice for anyone looking to start their own

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ruck club. After the show, check out our show

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notes at theruckersedge .com. All right, here's

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my conversation with Chad Haggerty. Chad, welcome

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to the Rucker's Edge podcast. It's really good

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to have you here. Thanks, man. It's definitely

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a pleasure to be here. So you just mentioned

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before we hit record just now, you went on a

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ruck this morning. I'm curious, what patch are

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you rocking right now? The patch that I'm rocking,

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let's see, right now I have our, we made a Halloween

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patch last year, where if you've seen our patch,

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it has like an alligator on it. And for Halloween

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last year, we did a special patch where if you

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came out in October, any time that you got this

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one, that's like. glow -in -the -dark skeleton

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of a alligator so it's pretty much just the dead

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version of our patch yeah i was i saw that online

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a couple weeks back and i was hoping you're gonna

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say that one that's really cool you know of all

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the rucking clubs i think that y 'all's patch

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or y 'all's logo might be the coolest with the

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gator on the front with the uh the logo in the

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background that's pretty cool i was super stoked

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when we got that So you're the founder of, I

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guess, co -founder of the West Orange Ruckers.

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And I want to talk about that here in a little

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bit. But I'm curious, when did you start rucking

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and what got you into it? I started rucking probably,

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I want to say it's probably 2019. I was doing

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the Savage Race down here in Florida. And it's

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back then it was just the same location that

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they do it twice a year. And then they go off

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into other parts of the United States. And so

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after a while, I mean, I think I started with

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doing Savage Race probably when they first, like

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maybe the first or second year that they did

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it. So I was getting, for lack of a better term,

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I was getting kind of bored with their, with

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the course or the location. And it wasn't anything

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with them. I was just like, man, I was like,

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I want to do something a little bit different.

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And so I started seeing that they were promoting

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a ruck division of Savage Race. And at the time,

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I mean, I had no clue about it. I mean, I'm an

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army brat, but me personally, I don't have any

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kind of military experience. So rucking was something

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completely foreign to me. And then it said, oh,

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well, you just put on a backpack and you put

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some weight in it and then you can just go for

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a walk. And I was like, oh, I could do the Savage

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Race, and I can walk this thing? I was like,

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absolutely, because my knees are absolutely shot.

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I have arthritis throughout both of my knees.

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Oh, boy. Yeah, so kind of running sucks. I hear

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you. But I was like, oh, okay, so I can walk

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this. Let me try this out. And then I went online,

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and it gave you a link to the Go Ruck website.

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And, you know, after the first sticker shock

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of the of the rucks and the weights and everything,

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they had this, you know, they had one of those

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deals going on. I think it was probably like

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a Christmas in July sale or something. And I

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was like, well, this is definitely a good time

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for me to do it. And I had a little bit of expendable

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cash at the time. So I was like, let's let's

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try it. Yeah. So fast forward, you know, what,

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six months or so when they're actually a little

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bit longer when COVID hit. And I started going

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out rucking into the national park or the state

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park that we have down the street. It's like

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three miles away from me. So I just started rucking

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like crazy just by myself. And it was a really

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cool way to kind of clear my head. So, you know,

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work at the time was completely sucked. And I

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was a brand new father. And, you know, we all

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have those kind of stresses of, you know, what

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the hell are we doing? Absolutely. Yeah. And

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I just needed to, you know, it was COVID at the

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time. I didn't have my core friends to go see

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or to go talk about anything. And I was kind

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of, you know, you have your spouse, you have

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my wife. But, you know, I needed somebody to

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kind of like talk about my stresses, too. And,

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you know, COVID kind of put a stop to that for

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a little bit. You know, so I was going out in

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nature, just going out on a five mile ruck through

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the hills just by myself and just clearing my

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head and kind of, you know, kind of mentally

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got back to, you know, a good place. And so I

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kind of wanted to. share that with other people

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once uh we were allowed yeah allowed to start

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hanging out with other people in public right

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oh so was that when you started west orange ruckers

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no um i i actually i pondered the idea of starting

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a ruck club um you know i started i started you

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know seeing what you know other than buying you

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know, a bag and, you know, some weights. So I

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was trying to see what Go Ruck was really all

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about. I kind of didn't really get into the Go

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Ruck community at first. And then I started seeing,

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oh, there's other people, there's other clubs

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that do this kind of thing. And so I started

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wanting to join a club. I was like, hey, I was

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like, there's a thing called the Central Florida

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Ruckers and you're on Facebook. So I joined up,

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but then there was nothing going on. It was completely,

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from what I understand, I guess maybe somebody

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moved away that was the leader of the club, and

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it just kind of dissolved. So I got in my head.

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I was like, man, maybe I can just get a couple

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people together and just go out rucking and see

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what happens. And then all of a sudden, fast

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forward to the Sandlot Festival. So the first

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Sandlot Festival, and then I started meeting

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like all these other people. I was like, holy

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crap, there's like hundreds if not thousands

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of people out here that are out here rucking.

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Real quick, what is the Sandlot Festival for

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people that aren't familiar with it? Yeah. So

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Sandlot Festival was a festival up in Jacksonville,

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just right outside of Go Ruck headquarters. Okay.

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That Jason and a bunch of people put together

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and he had a bunch of speakers. That were there.

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So like Roger Sparks, who's the one who created

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all the patches for Go Ruck. Okay. Or their tribe

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memberships. And then Michael Easter was there.

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A bunch of other just experts in health and fitness,

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which for me personally, I've never really gotten

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into that much. And I really was interested in

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it. So. I got to see a lot of these speakers

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and meet them. And then we went out on, you know,

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just random people. Just we'd all go out on a

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ruck for three miles or five miles. And then

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they had these go ruck events where it was like

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a basic event or a light event. And so I started

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doing these little events and kind of like, you

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know, very cultish. I kind of got sucked right

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in. That's awesome. These cool things and meeting

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other people and saw that there was a community.

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actually around this. And it was really cool

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because not one time did anybody talk about politics.

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Nobody, you know, nobody cared who people's backgrounds

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were, where they were from. They were just like,

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if you can pick up this weight and you can walk

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with it and help us out, then you're in. And

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I was like, sweet. Yeah, I'm definitely down

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for that. That's great. So I started thinking

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about clubs when that happened. And I was like,

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you know, I could really do this. And I can take

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this community feeling that I had from here and

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bring that back into the Orlando area. So I started

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talking to a couple people that were also kind

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of like I saw on the Facebook page for the Central

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Florida Rutgers. People were like, hey, is anything

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going on? Is anything? I was like, you know,

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there's a need for this, at least if it's only

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five of us. In all of Orlando, I was like, there's

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at least some of us here. And it kind of filled

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that empty void that I had during COVID of not

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having people to hang out with. And I was like,

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oh, I can hang out with other people and we can

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get healthy all at the same time. So that's where

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I started coming up with different names and

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talking to a couple other people about, hey,

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what do you think? And we're just shooting off

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different ideas. And eventually, because I live

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just next to West Orange County, I came up with

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West Orange Rutgers and W .O .R. People are like,

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oh, it's war. We can just go to war every day.

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Whatever. I was like, sure. That's awesome. If

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that's the way you want to put it, then let's

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go. Yeah. So came up with that idea. And then

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it took it took a little while, man. It was probably

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a year later because that the second. um festival

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um i had an image in my head of what i wanted

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for the patch because i always very professionally

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i wanted to be like i need to have a patch before

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we start this club because everybody in the go

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ruck community and rucking community are just

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they're fiends over patches they want patches

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right oh i was like i have to have a patch if

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i'm going to get people to come out here um so

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i was thinking about it's like oh you know we're

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we're in orlando it's like alligator heaven around

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here right and this little spot that we kind

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of based ourselves out of was an old orange community

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that used to grow oranges all the time and then

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there's alligators all over the lake there so

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i was like we have to have an alligator we have

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to have orange somewhere in this so oddly enough

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i went and took my family to sea world one day

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and i was wearing a go ruck shirt And then I

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went and took my, you know, my daughter was probably

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two years old at the time. So I took her into

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the bathroom, come out. And on our way out, this

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guy goes, hey, weirdo. And I was like, what?

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I was like, you know, weirdo is kind of like

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that term for ruckers and stuff. Yeah. I see

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he's wearing a go ruck shirt, too. And we're

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like, oh. You're wearing a goatee. You do rucks

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and I do rucks. And then all of a sudden we're

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like, okay, we're sitting in the men's bathroom

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with our little girls. I was like, let's go.

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Let's not talk here. Let's go talk. When you're

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out of the bathroom, I'll talk to you. Yeah,

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a more appropriate place. I'm thinking of like

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that Spider -Man meme where there's two Spider

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-Mans or three Spider -Mans pointing at each

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other. Absolutely. Except in a bathroom. Except

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we're in a bathroom with our daughters. Yeah.

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So very uncomfortable, but it made for a good

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story later in life. Cliff was the gentleman

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there. I'll give him props because I gave him

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my idea, which is what I do with my tattoo artists.

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I'm like, hey, this is what I want. Can you draw

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it? Because I suck at drawing. It just so happened

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to be he was a graphic design artist. I was like,

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holy crap. God put you in my life for some reason,

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bro. He immediately was like, can I be in your

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club? And he's like, yeah. And he goes, I'll

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do it for free. Nice. I was like, okay. He came

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up with that, with the, with the logo. And I

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was like, okay, this is it, man. And so I, we,

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we got it done. We got patches made. We got,

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you know, all kinds of stuff. And so then we

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had a club, you know, it was just a few people

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at first. And then all of a sudden we were, you

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know, People saw us walking around downtown in

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Winter Garden, where it's based out of, and more

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people started joining us. And we started going

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up to Go Ruck headquarters, and people started

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seeing our patches and everything like that.

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And, you know, they just wanted to earn the patch.

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So I was like, well, you got to ruck with us,

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man. I was like, I can't just give it to you.

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Yeah. What a cool story. What was the moment

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that you realized the club had become something

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special? You know, not just friends rucking,

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but... sort of being shaped into a real community

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so the first year we started um my my end game

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was always to do something good for the community

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um at whole like just the winter garden community

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the orlando community whatever it may be and

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there um there was a charity for looking for

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kids to um they needed to give toys, like a Toys

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for Tots, but it was on a local basis. It wasn't

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just kind of giving stuff to the Salvation Army

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and you don't know the effects that you do. But

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these families are all local within Central Florida

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that their children needed toys. So I was like,

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look, this is perfect. I was like, I'm going

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to come up with... you know, this, you know,

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well, Cliff came up with a patch. He started

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being my go -to, like, you know, I'm sure I annoyed

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the hell out of him going, Hey man, I got this

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idea for a patch. Can you draw this for, you

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know? And he's like, he always says yes. So thankfully

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he's a, he's a great friend, but he's even a

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better, like just patch maker. And so we came

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up with this idea that, Hey, you know, we can

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raise money through selling these patches. Or

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if you donate toys, you can get a patch. So we

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went to, there's a local donut shop here called

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DG Donuts that was like a Dropbox location for

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them. Okay. So I let them know. I was like, hey,

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we're going to have probably like, I don't know,

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50 people show up. that were going to bring toys,

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and they were going to give out free donuts to

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everybody who brought a toy. So it was all this

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kind of cool little, you know, everybody helps

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each other out type of deal. And I think the

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first year, we definitely had 50, if not more.

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And then the second year, last year, we had almost

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100 people show up to it. Wow, that's amazing.

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Yeah, we had patches for each year. But we raised,

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I mean, probably close to $1 ,000. between the

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toys and between money that's awesome that we

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just you know 100 of it just went straight to

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the charity and you know and i it was awesome

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because i know that like i said these kids that

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are going to be walking by us at any given time

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like we helped them so yeah so i think that's

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really when i knew we were um something special

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yeah that's Wow, that's really cool that you're

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using the platform or community that you're building

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to give back to the community that you live in.

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And I think that's just so commendable. Congrats

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to you and congrats to the club. Thank you. I've

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looked at West Orange Rutgers Instagram account

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and seen that y 'all do a lot of community events.

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I'm curious, outside of that one event you just

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talked about with raising money for the children,

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what have been some of your other favorite events

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over the years? We did a cool ruck one time with,

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my gosh, I'm going to get it wrong, but there's

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a guy that does things with dogs. He trains dogs,

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Southern Cross. That's what they're called, Southern

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Cross. And they train dogs in order to hand them

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off to families with soldiers that have PTSD.

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And so they're locally here. And so I was like,

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dude, I get, you know, in Florida, half of the

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year, it's way too hot to bring puppies out,

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you know, and get their toes burnt on the concrete.

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Right. But I was like, hey, anytime you want,

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I was like, let's get together and let's do like

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a ruck with the puppies so they can get training

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done. And then we just all come out as a community

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and stuff. So that was a really cool one where

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we just rucked with some puppies and other people

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brought their dogs. you know, it was a cool,

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cool little event. We had a barbecue afterwards.

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Cool. And then, you know, they, they raised money

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too. I was like, you know, we're, it's always

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been about like, Hey, if you guys want, let's

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raise money for it. And then a hundred percent

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just goes straight to whatever. So awesome. And

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then it looks like you've done. I guess meetups

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or other community outreach with other rut clubs

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in the area. I saw specifically Orlando Rut Club,

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maybe. I'm curious, how did that begin? How did

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you start reaching out to other clubs or did

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they start reaching out to you? So originally,

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so kind of going back to where we were. I was

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kind of getting the idea of creating a ruck club.

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I really leaned on, at the time, this Ponte Vedra

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ruck club. At the time, they were called Knock

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Rucks. So Mike Schroeder, one of their leaders,

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reached out to me one time when I had some rucks

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stolen out of my car. And out of nowhere, I just

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told people, hey, heads up. If you see these

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out in the community, let me know, you know,

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cause somebody, if anybody knows what they are,

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you know, what the real value of, you know, these

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go rock bags where they'll, they'll hit you up

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on these little platforms. And he reached out

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to me and he said, Hey, you know, come and rock

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with us and we'll, you know, I'll give you, I'll

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give you some bags to replace them, which I thought

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was an absolutely insane guy. I've never met

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before. is doing something so kind for me. And,

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um, and so I've really leaned on Mike a lot where

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I was like, how do you, how did you build this

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club? I mean, they have 80 to a hundred people

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like on any given moment going out on the rucks

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with them. That's huge. It's insane. It's, it's

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quite a sight to see. So, but, um, so he was

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doing, you know, a pup ruck. He was doing, you

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know, a toy ruck as well. Like they do a Christmas

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in July ruck. So where they, you know, they kind

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of gather up all the toys to be prepared for

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later in the year. So he, he does all these amazing

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rucks for the community. And I was like, this

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is what I want. I was like, I want to give back,

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you know, he, he, he was so kind just to me.

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And that little gesture was kind of like, look,

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I need to, I need to do step up for my community

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as well. you know, in any way I can. So whether

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it's, you know, we, we get together with, um,

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the local American Legion every year and we do

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a, um, a ruck with them. They do a challenge

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22 ruck for veteran suicide awareness where they

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get the whole community of Winter Garden. Like

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everybody comes out and rucks. That's awesome.

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So they have a concert, they have all kinds of

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cool things. which is where we met Southern Cross.

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That's just, you know, that was, like I said,

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that was the end game for me. It's just giving

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back to the community, whether it's through health

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things, whether it's through mental health and,

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you know, charities in general. That's really

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great. So I'm curious, how many members are there

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in the West Orange Rutgers Rut Club? Oh, Lord.

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I think Facebook members. I think we're over

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400. But, you know, any given week, it's different

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because we have different locations now and different

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people leading it. So we'll have five or six

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people come out for one ruck. Another 10 people

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come out for a different ruck after that. So

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really actively, we can probably we're probably

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around like 20 or so. Cool. You know, normal

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active wise. I mean, I've had to take a step

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away from the club every now and then just because

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of my job. So I I recently had a new job in April,

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which is taking me all over the southern United

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States every week. So I get to I unfortunately

00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.700
get to miss out on a lot of rucks. But I think

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the way that I built this club was more of a

00:22:01.539 --> 00:22:07.410
choose your own adventure. Sure. It's like, hey,

00:22:07.470 --> 00:22:09.470
if you want to come out in the morning, meet

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up with us at 530 in the morning on Wednesday.

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If you want to come out at night, we're going

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to be meeting at night on Thursday and we're

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going to ruck heavy. Bring out extra sandbags.

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You know, Sunday was more of a family. Bring

00:22:23.230 --> 00:22:25.589
your kids, bring your wife or husband, whoever,

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and we're just all going to walk type of deal.

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So it was a little bit of something for everybody.

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So follow up to that. How are you finding new?

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or how are you recruiting them these days? So

00:22:39.250 --> 00:22:42.829
it's really just kind of organically. You know,

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you start walking around and you're walking with

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American flag, you know, people start taking

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notice of like, hey, what the heck are all these

00:22:50.150 --> 00:22:53.470
people doing with bags or flak jackets on? Yeah.

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American flag, you either get negative or positive

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results from it. Right. Also, what's in that

00:22:59.589 --> 00:23:03.609
bag? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, you know. they

00:23:03.609 --> 00:23:05.589
kind of halfway think you're a militia or something,

00:23:05.750 --> 00:23:08.049
but we're just like, no man, it's like, we're

00:23:08.049 --> 00:23:10.029
just out here exercising. You should join us.

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Cause like, here, come, come walk with us and

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see, we just, you know, and so some people do,

00:23:14.849 --> 00:23:17.049
some people are like, Oh yeah, well, you know,

00:23:17.069 --> 00:23:19.509
look us up on Facebook, you know, come and join

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us. It's like, all we do is we just walk and

00:23:21.529 --> 00:23:24.450
make fun of each other half the time. So nice.

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And, uh, I'm super curious about. Your journey

00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:30.559
through creating this community and this rec

00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.619
club, because I think there are a lot more people

00:23:32.619 --> 00:23:35.519
thinking about, you know, starting a rec club

00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.339
as as rucking gains in popularity. So for people

00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:42.180
thinking about starting their own rec club, let's

00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:43.779
learn from someone that's done it. So what's

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what's one mistake you made early on that you

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would advise other people avoid? The first thing

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that I would say, and this is something I, you

00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:57.130
know, I heard from Mike Schroeder in. And on

00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:58.730
a major rec club, he was like, this is like a

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part -time job. He's like, just so you know.

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And cause they do, I think like two recs a week.

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And we were doing three a week and it really

00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:13.029
is a part -time job. So you have to have, don't

00:24:13.029 --> 00:24:16.269
do it by yourself. Like, and when I say do it

00:24:16.269 --> 00:24:18.970
by yourself, I mean, leading the club by yourself,

00:24:19.089 --> 00:24:22.230
lean on, lean on other people because things

00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:26.039
are going to happen. And. You may not be able

00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.220
to go out. You might get injured and you can't

00:24:28.220 --> 00:24:31.900
go out for the next week or a month, depending

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on what's happening. You almost feel like the

00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:40.799
club is just kind of – I never wanted it to dwindle

00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.079
away. I felt like that club before me was there

00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.599
because I know it does do good for other people.

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And so you have to find those people you can

00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.539
lean on that can help lead the rucks for you

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when you can't make it. You know, like I said,

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if you're doing that many rucks, which, you know,

00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.680
is another thing I would say, maybe focus on

00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:09.059
one a week at most. Yeah. At first, at first,

00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.440
you know, until you find those people that want

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more, then put it on them to do it with you.

00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.039
Hey, you know, it's like you. You know, I never

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even though I'm the one who helped found the

00:25:22.420 --> 00:25:26.160
club, I've always been a very, you know, big

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.680
supporter of I'm not the only leader of the club.

00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.859
I was like, if you want to go out on a Wednesday

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morning, then post it up on Facebook, post it

00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:37.960
somewhere, you know, put it into the Sandlot

00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.980
app and just tell people where you're going to

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be at what time and then people will come. It

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might be only two people or three people at first,

00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:50.390
but maybe that one or two people that show up

00:25:50.390 --> 00:25:54.009
really need it. Yeah, that's really good advice.

00:25:54.170 --> 00:25:56.390
The amount of coordination I'm sure it takes

00:25:56.390 --> 00:25:59.509
to find a place, find a route, and then recruit

00:25:59.509 --> 00:26:02.490
people to come with you. Yeah, I could totally

00:26:02.490 --> 00:26:04.410
see how that's a part -time job. Absolutely.

00:26:04.730 --> 00:26:07.150
So I know you're a co -founder. So I think I

00:26:07.150 --> 00:26:09.369
saw you mention someone named Dave as the other

00:26:09.369 --> 00:26:13.150
co -founder. So Dave was one of our original

00:26:13.150 --> 00:26:18.089
founders. And then this guy, Doug, we were the

00:26:18.089 --> 00:26:20.710
first, I guess, the three who really kind of

00:26:20.710 --> 00:26:24.250
started it out. And then Cliff as well, because

00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:27.210
he was our patch guy. But he lives on the opposite

00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:29.329
side of Orlando, so it's hard for him to come

00:26:29.329 --> 00:26:32.609
out on this side of town. But he's always been

00:26:32.609 --> 00:26:36.430
like... my dude in the background that is, you

00:26:36.430 --> 00:26:39.309
know, like who's really running this place. Yeah.

00:26:40.269 --> 00:26:44.450
Um, but so Dave was really instrumental, um,

00:26:44.589 --> 00:26:47.369
when we first started, cause he was involved,

00:26:47.509 --> 00:26:49.849
you know, Doug as well. Like they were very already

00:26:49.849 --> 00:26:53.470
involved in the community. Um, but Dave was like,

00:26:53.549 --> 00:26:55.650
you know, he's a chiropractor and he was going

00:26:55.650 --> 00:26:57.670
to all of these kind of different meetings for

00:26:57.670 --> 00:26:59.529
the community. Doug was doing the same thing.

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And so we got, um, a write -up in one of the

00:27:04.390 --> 00:27:07.250
local magazines like a week later we ended up

00:27:07.250 --> 00:27:09.329
getting a write -up in one of the local newspapers

00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:12.589
and it was a great and it was a great way like

00:27:12.589 --> 00:27:15.170
a lot of people were you know coming into the

00:27:15.170 --> 00:27:17.609
rut going oh i read about you guys in the magazine

00:27:17.609 --> 00:27:20.329
i read about you in this i'm like oh okay that

00:27:20.329 --> 00:27:24.509
works yeah it was like awesome so any way to

00:27:24.509 --> 00:27:26.910
work to get the word out yeah yeah and so those

00:27:26.910 --> 00:27:30.769
two guys were super instrumental in helping facilitate

00:27:30.769 --> 00:27:34.539
all of that Very cool. So any advice for listeners

00:27:34.539 --> 00:27:37.440
that want to start their own club outside of

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.680
the advice you just gave about having a co -founder?

00:27:40.380 --> 00:27:43.960
I'd say if there are other clubs, don't be afraid

00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:50.160
to start your own. Because obviously we started,

00:27:50.420 --> 00:27:53.480
but Orlando, if anybody knows Orlando, you can

00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.799
drive an hour and still be in Orlando. We're

00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:02.259
a very big city. You know, when Orlando Ruck

00:28:02.259 --> 00:28:05.799
Club, they started a few months after us. And

00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.299
then they had, you know, they had a big group

00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:11.200
going out with them because they're like almost

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.559
in the heart of downtown Orlando. Okay. Sanford

00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.180
Ruck Club is just like another 15 minutes, 20

00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:20.940
minutes north of Orlando. And they've got a huge

00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:23.339
group that goes out there. We've got more like,

00:28:23.420 --> 00:28:26.099
I think it's like two or three like Ocala or

00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:28.940
Brick City Ruckers. And there's a new one in

00:28:28.940 --> 00:28:32.599
Claremont that just started. So we came from

00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.359
nothing to now there's like, I think there's

00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.539
at least five rock clubs in the Orlando area.

00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.460
Wow. That's wild. Yeah. So if you were starting

00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:44.599
a rock club in this community with other rock

00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.339
clubs, lean on those guys or gals, you know,

00:28:48.339 --> 00:28:51.559
lean on them and, you know, partner with them.

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.619
They're, they're not competition. Don't, and

00:28:53.619 --> 00:28:56.019
don't get it stuck in your head. Like, Oh, we've

00:28:56.019 --> 00:28:58.920
only got five people and they've got, 50 sure

00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.259
why why is nobody and don't worry about that

00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:03.759
it's stuff in the long run in the long run it

00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.160
doesn't matter if it makes you happy to go out

00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.059
and do this rucking with the five people you

00:29:09.059 --> 00:29:12.180
have then count as a blessing that you have five

00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:16.500
you know core people that you know are your they're

00:29:16.500 --> 00:29:19.259
your friends now they're your family so you wouldn't

00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:21.339
have had before yeah they're kind of like a community

00:29:21.339 --> 00:29:23.259
within a community that's really cool to see

00:29:23.609 --> 00:29:25.549
We are. And they're all, I mean, they're family

00:29:25.549 --> 00:29:28.630
to me. You know, those guys, I mean, you know,

00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:31.569
they, they all, we all work together and different

00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:32.789
things. We're like, Hey, what are you going to

00:29:32.789 --> 00:29:34.509
do for this rock? What are you going to do? Are

00:29:34.509 --> 00:29:35.970
you going to do something for Christmas? I mean,

00:29:35.990 --> 00:29:39.430
Sanford rock club, they're going to head up the

00:29:39.430 --> 00:29:42.829
toy drive, the toy rock this year. Awesome. So,

00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:44.549
which is great. It takes a lot of weight off

00:29:44.549 --> 00:29:46.410
because it takes a lot of planning and stuff.

00:29:46.430 --> 00:29:48.450
And it takes a lot of weight off my shoulders

00:29:48.450 --> 00:29:52.460
with me working so much. Um, so with this, with

00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:54.980
this new job that I have, I, I mean, I work weekends,

00:29:55.099 --> 00:29:58.380
I work days, it's, it's nuts. So it's, you know,

00:29:58.380 --> 00:30:01.259
any family time I have, I have to take that family

00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:04.720
time. Absolutely. Yeah. That's ultimately at

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.240
the end of the day, that's what's the most important

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.230
for sure. Exactly. Exactly. More with Chad in

00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:13.190
just a moment, including how he adopts Michael

00:30:13.190 --> 00:30:16.049
Easter's 2 % mindset into his and his family's

00:30:16.049 --> 00:30:18.130
lives. But I want to take a quick break to say

00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:20.329
thanks for listening to the podcast. Please text

00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:22.309
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00:30:22.309 --> 00:30:24.369
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00:30:24.369 --> 00:30:26.430
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00:30:26.430 --> 00:30:28.829
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00:30:28.829 --> 00:30:33.509
health and lives. Okay, back to it. Okay, so

00:30:33.509 --> 00:30:36.940
moving on to... working fitness into your family

00:30:36.940 --> 00:30:39.180
life. You've done a lot of obstacle courses.

00:30:39.259 --> 00:30:41.859
You've already mentioned savage races. I'm not

00:30:41.859 --> 00:30:45.240
familiar with savage races, but I know of Tough

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.420
Mudders. Is that sort of the same deal? Yeah,

00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.740
it's a lot of the same deal. I've done a lot

00:30:51.740 --> 00:30:54.539
of the different obstacle course races and mud

00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:58.079
races, and I just gravitated towards savage race.

00:30:58.299 --> 00:31:00.859
You know, I think that's just, you know, I've

00:31:00.859 --> 00:31:03.460
become friends with a lot of the folks that work

00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:07.109
there. And it's just part of, you know, going

00:31:07.109 --> 00:31:08.930
back to community, they're the community that

00:31:08.930 --> 00:31:11.890
I like is the Savage Race community. Awesome.

00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:16.309
Yeah. So but I've gotten my kids into it now.

00:31:17.049 --> 00:31:22.089
So, you know, I I've always wanted my kids to.

00:31:23.150 --> 00:31:27.369
be outside i kind of you know on purpose made

00:31:27.369 --> 00:31:32.450
them a little feral so yeah um i you know i don't

00:31:32.450 --> 00:31:36.150
want them sitting at home all day just on a tablet

00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:38.410
or watching a movie or something like that and

00:31:38.410 --> 00:31:40.849
it's so hard to get away from that because it's

00:31:40.849 --> 00:31:44.670
the easy thing to do when you know a three -year

00:31:44.670 --> 00:31:47.650
-old is screaming and you just like you know

00:31:47.650 --> 00:31:50.269
you need some help so hey you know here comes

00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:54.579
you know the tablet to the rescue But really,

00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:59.720
you know, I wanted them to go out and do fun

00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:03.420
stuff outside that, you know, tested their fitness

00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:06.180
abilities, whether, you know, they know what

00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:09.160
they are or not. But, you know, seeing, hey,

00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:11.819
can you climb a little? you know, one foot wall.

00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.059
Can you go underneath these things and have fun

00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:17.539
and jump in the mud and all these, you know,

00:32:17.539 --> 00:32:21.299
fun little obstacles for kids. And my daughter

00:32:21.299 --> 00:32:24.920
did it when she was two. She's almost seven now

00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.039
and she's done it every single year. She looks

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.000
forward to doing Savage Race. My son has, I mean,

00:32:32.019 --> 00:32:33.839
he just turned three and he's already done it

00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.339
twice. He's done, you know, he did it when he

00:32:37.339 --> 00:32:41.210
was like a year and a half old. So I was pretty

00:32:41.210 --> 00:32:43.650
much carrying him from obstacle to obstacle.

00:32:43.950 --> 00:32:48.549
He was your ruck, essentially. Yeah, exactly.

00:32:49.650 --> 00:32:51.910
And then he did it all on his own last year.

00:32:52.009 --> 00:32:55.509
I mean, they're having so much fun. I think that's

00:32:55.509 --> 00:32:58.460
a cool... You know, it's a cool family outing

00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:01.660
like that. Agreed. It's a good way to bond and

00:33:01.660 --> 00:33:04.019
make memories with your family. And I totally

00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.279
agree. I think kids need to be outside. Absolutely.

00:33:06.779 --> 00:33:10.519
Yeah. There's a lot of studies out of like, you

00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:12.779
know, Norway or Sweden indicating that like it

00:33:12.779 --> 00:33:15.640
just kids need to be outside learning. It does

00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:17.660
something with their executive functioning skills.

00:33:18.420 --> 00:33:21.359
So we do the same with our with ours. We try

00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.819
to. get them outside and, you know, teach them

00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:26.440
about nature and get them to do a little bit

00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.299
of exercise. But that's really cool. It's really

00:33:29.299 --> 00:33:30.559
cool to hear that you're doing that with your

00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.359
kids. Yeah. Now, I want to talk about your mindset

00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:38.660
with rucking and your daily life. I've seen you

00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:42.480
rocking some 2 % gear. And then I saw back in

00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.839
December 2024, you went on a reflection ruck.

00:33:45.900 --> 00:33:47.480
So I kind of want to start there. What is your

00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.089
intention with? reflection rucks i guess what

00:33:51.089 --> 00:33:54.750
what are their purpose for me it's my way of

00:33:54.750 --> 00:33:58.410
clearing my head for the year you know especially

00:33:58.410 --> 00:34:00.970
you know my like i try and do it like probably

00:34:00.970 --> 00:34:04.230
twice a year where i just kind of i don't have

00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:08.440
a time limit i don't have You know, a lot of

00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:10.380
times, you know, we do these three mile rucks

00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:12.679
as a club because we have time. You know, we

00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:14.460
have to get back to our families. We have jobs

00:34:14.460 --> 00:34:16.780
we have to go to. Exactly. So I try and keep

00:34:16.780 --> 00:34:19.260
everything under an hour. So you're always kind

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:21.159
of in the back of your head. You're like, OK,

00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.059
we need to speed this up. Or, you know, what

00:34:24.059 --> 00:34:26.960
do I have to do after this ruck? Right. Where

00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.500
my kind of, you know, reflection rucks are just

00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:32.679
like kind of tell my wife, OK, I'm going to go

00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.159
out, you know, when the park opens at eight o

00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.739
'clock. Kind of go back to where it all started

00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:41.860
for me into the state park down the road and

00:34:41.860 --> 00:34:45.500
just kind of go, hey, I'm just going to find

00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:48.579
a trail. I'm going to get lost a little bit and

00:34:48.579 --> 00:34:53.260
not even follow the maps that we have. So, I

00:34:53.260 --> 00:34:56.320
mean, I'll keep the map on my phone in my pocket

00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.590
just in case. it starts getting to be a time

00:35:00.590 --> 00:35:04.150
where I need to get out. Right. In case you come

00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:05.809
across too many gators or something like that.

00:35:05.929 --> 00:35:10.909
Exactly. Gators, bears, whatever. But, you know,

00:35:10.909 --> 00:35:13.570
it's my time to just kind of go out and just

00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:16.730
think, you know, what did I do right this year?

00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:19.809
What did I do wrong? What improvements do I need

00:35:19.809 --> 00:35:22.949
to make? And you can do this any time of the

00:35:22.949 --> 00:35:26.949
year, really. You know, it's nice. You know,

00:35:26.949 --> 00:35:29.590
in Florida, you only have a month or two where

00:35:29.590 --> 00:35:32.610
it's somewhat nice and cool out. So it always

00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:36.289
ends up around New Year's. Right. So, yeah, that

00:35:36.289 --> 00:35:38.269
makes that makes sense. I really like that. I

00:35:38.269 --> 00:35:40.730
think I might try to incorporate that into my

00:35:40.730 --> 00:35:43.269
end of the year sort of activities. That's a

00:35:43.269 --> 00:35:45.349
really good idea. I'm going to adopt that. Yeah.

00:35:45.530 --> 00:35:48.829
And going back to the 2 % gear, you're rocking.

00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.630
Yes. For listeners that are not aware, can you

00:35:51.630 --> 00:35:56.980
briefly describe that? Yeah. So it was, in my

00:35:56.980 --> 00:36:00.179
mind, it started by Michael Easter. So he is

00:36:00.179 --> 00:36:04.119
an author for The Comfort Crisis, which is a

00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:08.320
book about being a two percenter, getting uncomfortable.

00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.420
So for those that don't know, if you see two

00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:13.840
percent on someone's hat or something like that

00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.920
or a shirt, what it means is I guess there were

00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.570
studies that were done that When given the option

00:36:22.570 --> 00:36:27.269
of doing something comfortable, that 98 % of

00:36:27.269 --> 00:36:29.130
everybody will take the more comfortable position.

00:36:29.489 --> 00:36:33.130
So think of what Michael Easter will say. Think

00:36:33.130 --> 00:36:35.750
about when you're in an airport and you see this

00:36:35.750 --> 00:36:38.250
long line of people waiting to get up the escalator,

00:36:38.289 --> 00:36:42.269
especially places like Atlanta and stuff, where

00:36:42.269 --> 00:36:46.269
people will wait in line to take the more comfortable.

00:36:47.099 --> 00:36:49.539
way up the escalator and not have to move their

00:36:49.539 --> 00:36:53.500
bodies where you can just take the stairs and

00:36:53.500 --> 00:36:55.980
you'll be up there and you'll get to the top

00:36:55.980 --> 00:37:00.019
before anybody on that escalator was there and

00:37:00.019 --> 00:37:02.559
then you'll be done plus you got to do some exercise

00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.860
yeah and only only two percent of people will

00:37:05.860 --> 00:37:10.019
do that and so wearing that two percent hat or

00:37:10.019 --> 00:37:14.059
a sticker or something for me is kind of a reminder

00:37:14.059 --> 00:37:17.159
one When I'm in the airport and I'm wearing a

00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.980
2 % hat, I can't be the jerk and take the escalator.

00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.900
It reminds me, hey, you need to take the stairs,

00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:28.019
bro. It doesn't matter how tired you are. You

00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:30.039
need to take the stairs because someone's looking

00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:33.139
at you on an escalator wearing a 2 % hat. There's

00:37:33.139 --> 00:37:35.519
some accountability there, for sure. Absolutely.

00:37:35.699 --> 00:37:38.320
It's my personal accountability. What are some

00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.340
of your other habits that you've developed through

00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:44.510
adopting the 2 %? I know in Comfort Crisis, I

00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:48.190
think he mentions parking further away to an

00:37:48.190 --> 00:37:49.989
entrance. That's something that I'll do when

00:37:49.989 --> 00:37:51.650
I go to the grocery store and I kind of force

00:37:51.650 --> 00:37:54.590
myself to grocery shop without a basket. Although

00:37:54.590 --> 00:37:56.409
that's difficult at Costco when you're buying

00:37:56.409 --> 00:37:58.829
like bulk things and you're like chuckling stuff

00:37:58.829 --> 00:38:02.170
to check out. But hey, you still do it. Exactly.

00:38:02.630 --> 00:38:06.670
What are you implementing into your daily routine?

00:38:07.250 --> 00:38:12.389
Definitely the parking bit I will do. Um, and

00:38:12.389 --> 00:38:14.570
not even for that, it's just, you know, in Florida,

00:38:14.590 --> 00:38:16.650
you need to find a place with a shade and that's

00:38:16.650 --> 00:38:18.869
usually in the back of the parking lot. That's

00:38:18.869 --> 00:38:23.449
true. But, um, yeah, so I'll definitely park

00:38:23.449 --> 00:38:27.030
further away, um, to walk, you know, kind of

00:38:27.030 --> 00:38:31.250
get in those steps. So I always have my Garmin

00:38:31.250 --> 00:38:33.329
telling me what my steps are and how many more

00:38:33.329 --> 00:38:36.309
I need to get. So I usually try and hit my step

00:38:36.309 --> 00:38:40.550
goal for the day, but, um, That definitely helps.

00:38:41.550 --> 00:38:44.989
And then I implement it into really my family

00:38:44.989 --> 00:38:47.949
life with the kids, especially. They don't know

00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:49.530
it. I mean, obviously, they're not going to understand

00:38:49.530 --> 00:38:54.650
what 2 % means. But I make them, I give them

00:38:54.650 --> 00:38:57.030
the choice, I guess you could say, of taking

00:38:57.030 --> 00:39:01.789
a harder route. Oh, interesting. Okay. So we

00:39:01.789 --> 00:39:04.809
live very close to Disney. My wife works for

00:39:04.809 --> 00:39:07.789
Disney. And we'll, I will do like. you know,

00:39:07.809 --> 00:39:10.590
a day at the parks or something like that. And,

00:39:10.809 --> 00:39:13.550
you know, they're at that age, especially, you

00:39:13.550 --> 00:39:16.630
know, my son who's three, where he's, we're weaning

00:39:16.630 --> 00:39:20.530
him out of the stroller for the most part. And

00:39:20.530 --> 00:39:24.389
so he'll, we'll make him walk most of the time

00:39:24.389 --> 00:39:28.150
in the parks or, you know, like my daughter who

00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:31.949
wishes she could still be in the stroller. We'll

00:39:31.949 --> 00:39:37.519
have to walk the entire time. In my head, I go,

00:39:37.579 --> 00:39:39.800
yes, you're going to have to walk all day. But

00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.079
we also have our, hey, you're sitting down for

00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:43.460
this. You're sitting down for that. We've got

00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:45.340
a 20 -minute show we're going to go watch in

00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:47.619
the air conditioner. You have a way of recovering.

00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:52.309
completely abusing our children on the heat yeah

00:39:52.309 --> 00:39:55.190
of course that's really cool have they have they

00:39:55.190 --> 00:39:57.329
ever surprised you and just done something that

00:39:57.329 --> 00:39:59.789
was sort of a little more uncomfortable than

00:39:59.789 --> 00:40:01.989
a different option like maybe like carrying their

00:40:01.989 --> 00:40:03.829
own backpack or something like that every day

00:40:03.829 --> 00:40:07.150
every day they do that so my my son is obsessed

00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:12.650
with wearing a backpack now that's great you

00:40:12.650 --> 00:40:15.070
know he'll throw a little stuffed animal or a

00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:16.989
book in it or something like that and just walk

00:40:16.989 --> 00:40:18.989
around the house he's like i'm a rock like you

00:40:18.989 --> 00:40:21.510
daddy i'm a rock that's awesome that's really

00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:26.230
cool so in you know little things like that i'm

00:40:26.230 --> 00:40:29.110
like okay this is definitely helping with that

00:40:29.110 --> 00:40:32.030
and i have a push -up competition with him during

00:40:32.030 --> 00:40:35.219
if we're watching a movie You know, I'll be like,

00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.059
hey, you know, if you want to watch this, we

00:40:37.059 --> 00:40:39.699
got to do we got to do 15 pushups, buddy. Oh,

00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:42.199
wow. Yeah, that's cool. Or, you know, during

00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.320
during commercial breaks, I'm like, hey, let's

00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.460
go do some squats. Let's do some pushups. Cool.

00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:53.019
So now going back to the comfort crisis, Michael

00:40:53.019 --> 00:40:55.860
Easter talks about Misogi's. Do you do any Misogi's

00:40:55.860 --> 00:41:02.199
yourself? So my Misogi, I try and do my one a

00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.869
year. So last year, this year, I haven't had

00:41:06.869 --> 00:41:11.469
a chance to yet, just because I've had some injuries

00:41:11.469 --> 00:41:13.710
this year that stopped me from doing some things.

00:41:14.110 --> 00:41:17.809
But the year before, my Masogi was really doing

00:41:17.809 --> 00:41:23.690
a go -ruck tough, where I've done a lot of basics.

00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:26.070
I've done a lot of, you know, for those that

00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:28.969
don't know, it's kind of like a, you know, a

00:41:28.969 --> 00:41:34.630
time, kind of timed event where, If I say we're

00:41:34.630 --> 00:41:37.250
doing a basic, we're rucking for six hours and

00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:39.610
we're doing little workouts, like military -style

00:41:39.610 --> 00:41:45.289
workouts along the way for six hours or so. And

00:41:45.289 --> 00:41:48.909
for a tough, we're doing it for 10 to 12 hours,

00:41:49.150 --> 00:41:54.550
where you're putting in upwards of 15 miles in

00:41:54.550 --> 00:41:57.670
that time, plus you're working out and doing...

00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.380
horrible amount of burpees and lifting heavy

00:42:01.380 --> 00:42:04.460
80, a hundred pounds sandbags. And it's a big

00:42:04.460 --> 00:42:08.800
team workout thing. Um, so, but mine was really

00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.619
doing that tough last year and it was in the

00:42:11.619 --> 00:42:15.519
middle of the summer, um, in Florida. Yikes.

00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.559
A hundred degree weather probably. Absolutely.

00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.119
With not a single bit of shade. 90 % humidity.

00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.269
Yeah. Yeah. Um, so doing that was really my Misogi.

00:42:27.369 --> 00:42:30.570
It was my thing of, you know, mentally, can I

00:42:30.570 --> 00:42:33.449
finish this? I say, you know, and figuring out,

00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:36.130
you know, you know, that whole 50, 50 chance

00:42:36.130 --> 00:42:39.210
of making it, which, you know, I knew that I

00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:42.070
could, if I just, you know, mentally could dial

00:42:42.070 --> 00:42:44.170
in, I can do it, which I was able to. And it

00:42:44.170 --> 00:42:46.710
was, it was a, it was a great time. Nice. Well,

00:42:46.789 --> 00:42:49.170
congrats to you. That's awesome. And sorry to

00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:51.590
hear about the injuries, man. Yeah. I'm getting

00:42:51.590 --> 00:42:56.739
old, man. I'm getting old. I saw my rheumatologist

00:42:56.739 --> 00:42:59.900
today and I've got a bum knee. So you don't have

00:42:59.900 --> 00:43:01.840
to remind me that, uh, that we're all aging.

00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.309
Um, Yeah. Well, you know, I think this has been

00:43:07.309 --> 00:43:10.329
such a fantastic conversation, Chad. We're going

00:43:10.329 --> 00:43:11.789
to go ahead and get to the last bit of questions.

00:43:11.829 --> 00:43:13.929
But before doing that, I just want to say thanks

00:43:13.929 --> 00:43:15.809
again for coming on. I've really enjoyed this

00:43:15.809 --> 00:43:18.030
conversation. This was a lot of fun. I appreciate

00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:20.849
it. Absolutely. Where can people follow your

00:43:20.849 --> 00:43:24.409
club and maybe even join a ruck with you? Yeah,

00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:29.130
absolutely. So look up West Orange Ruckers. We're

00:43:29.130 --> 00:43:32.380
on Facebook, we're on Instagram. So either one

00:43:32.380 --> 00:43:34.360
of those West Orange Ruckers. Good deal. I'll

00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.300
put a link in the show notes too. All right.

00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.380
So let's move into the rapid fire round. We kind

00:43:39.380 --> 00:43:42.119
of do this with every episode, just a few questions

00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:45.500
and quick answers. So if you don't mind, what

00:43:45.500 --> 00:43:47.920
was your first rucksack when you started rucking?

00:43:48.260 --> 00:43:55.159
Oh, I had a Rucker 3 .0 with the Go Ruck logo

00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.260
written like all the way across. Nice. Nice.

00:43:59.619 --> 00:44:01.940
If you could only rock one trail for the rest

00:44:01.940 --> 00:44:04.619
of your life, what trail would that be? I'm actually

00:44:04.619 --> 00:44:07.579
going to rock it this weekend. I'm going up to

00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:11.579
Lake Lure and Chimney Rock. And there is a nice

00:44:11.579 --> 00:44:16.739
trail along the top of Chimney Rock that goes

00:44:16.739 --> 00:44:19.820
over waterfalls and everything. And I'm going

00:44:19.820 --> 00:44:22.480
to go rock that this weekend. Wow, that's awesome.

00:44:22.619 --> 00:44:24.440
That does not sound like Florida. Where is that?

00:44:24.730 --> 00:44:28.010
No, it's so right in, I say the mountains of

00:44:28.010 --> 00:44:30.170
North Carolina. Most people say the foothills,

00:44:30.210 --> 00:44:36.250
but. Gotcha. It's all relative. Yeah, it's right

00:44:36.250 --> 00:44:39.329
outside of Lake Lure, kind of an hour outside

00:44:39.329 --> 00:44:42.570
of Asheville. Awesome. Okay. What's your favorite

00:44:42.570 --> 00:44:47.309
non -rucking workout? I would say, you know,

00:44:47.329 --> 00:44:48.710
it's kind of a workout. I would say surfing,

00:44:48.809 --> 00:44:52.730
man. I love surfing. Absolutely love it. What

00:44:52.730 --> 00:44:56.670
do you listen to when you rock? I listen to music.

00:44:56.829 --> 00:44:59.849
I know, um, podcasts just, you know, I start

00:44:59.849 --> 00:45:01.690
getting in my head about other things. I just,

00:45:01.730 --> 00:45:05.010
uh, I love to listen to music. Um, you know,

00:45:05.030 --> 00:45:07.849
lately I've been listening to a band called the

00:45:07.849 --> 00:45:11.230
callous Dow boys. Um, you know, a lot, a lot

00:45:11.230 --> 00:45:13.329
of heavy music. I like to listen to a lot of

00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:16.170
heavy hardcore music. Yeah. I kind of get your,

00:45:16.170 --> 00:45:17.929
your, uh, your heart rate going. I could totally

00:45:17.929 --> 00:45:20.750
see that. Absolutely. Yeah. Last question. What

00:45:20.750 --> 00:45:23.739
is your bucket list rucking trail? I would say

00:45:23.739 --> 00:45:29.380
I did this kind of trail over in Oahu where you

00:45:29.380 --> 00:45:34.119
go up to Diamond Head, but I did it without rucking.

00:45:34.179 --> 00:45:37.079
I would like to go back and actually ruck to

00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.460
Diamond Head in Hawaii. Cool. Yeah, I think you're

00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:43.539
the second one to say Hawaii has a rucking trail

00:45:43.539 --> 00:45:45.139
that they'd like to do on their bucket list.

00:45:45.219 --> 00:45:48.860
I think, yeah, the founder of Ruckwell, Chris

00:45:48.860 --> 00:45:52.230
Hayes, I think that was his as well. It is a

00:45:52.230 --> 00:45:54.130
really cool hike. I just like to do it with a

00:45:54.130 --> 00:45:56.889
ruck. And then they also have a cocoa head. I'm

00:45:56.889 --> 00:45:58.730
probably getting this wrong. And everybody in

00:45:58.730 --> 00:46:02.570
Hawaii is screaming at me. There's one. It's

00:46:02.570 --> 00:46:05.190
like the staircase that just goes straight up

00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:08.469
the mountain. I think it's cocoa head, but I

00:46:08.469 --> 00:46:11.469
don't know. Gotcha. Put your put your knee braces

00:46:11.469 --> 00:46:15.619
on for that one. Oh, yeah. Well, Chad, again,

00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.039
really appreciate your time. And yeah, good luck

00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.679
with the rest of your endeavors with your Ruck

00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.300
Club, man. Really appreciate it. Thank you. All

00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:27.900
right. That wraps up my conversation with Chad.

00:46:28.019 --> 00:46:30.159
You can connect with him and West Orange Ruckers

00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.920
on Instagram at West Orange Ruckers. I'll drop

00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.699
the link in the show notes. If you want to reach

00:46:34.699 --> 00:46:36.780
out to me, head on over to theruckersedge .com

00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:39.860
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00:46:39.860 --> 00:46:41.900
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00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.000
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00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:50.679
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