How to Start a Ruck Club That Actually Grows (Lessons from Triton Ruck Club)

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What does it take to build a ruck club in your

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city that people actually show up to week after

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week? Well in today's episode you're gonna find

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out you'll learn exactly how to go from just

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a few people walking together to Building a thriving

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rucking community that keeps growing over time

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Today I'm joined by Jessica Flores, co -founder

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of Triton Ruck Club out of San Diego, California.

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She breaks down what actually works, how to schedule

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your events so people show up, how to create

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consistency, how to retain members, and the biggest

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mistakes that quietly kill most rut clubs before

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they even get off the ground. If you ever thought

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about starting your own rut club, or even just

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wanting to understand how strong rutting communities

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are built, this episode will give you a clear,

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actionable blueprint. You're listening to the

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routine, lose weight, and ultimately gain your

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strength and energy back. Each episode dives

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rucking. You'll learn from top ruckers, coaches,

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health experts, and performance specialists who

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faster, and stay ready for the next challenge.

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So whether you're new to rucking or an experienced

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rucker that's already logged hundreds of miles,

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this is the show for you. I'm your host Spencer

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thanks for listening in before we get going if

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improve their rucking thanks so much Jessica,

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welcome to the Rutgers Edge podcast. I feel former

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guests have had some fantastic things to say

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about you. I've been following you on Instagram.

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Yeah, I've been following Triton Rut Club and

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the various chapters on Instagram. I'm really

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happy to have you here. And I think some of the

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listeners out there that are curious about starting

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a rut club are curious to hear what you have

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to say. So thanks for joining me today. Hi, Spencer.

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I'm honored to have been invited to chat. Thanks.

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Yeah. Before we get into the details of Triton

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and the various chapters and how it started,

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I kind of want to ask you about your rucking

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journey. So how did you find rucking and what

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was your life like when you started rucking?

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Coasting, not going to the gym, just being awesome,

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but having a very sedentary life. And I had a

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bout of congestive heart failure and realized

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I need to make drastic life changes. for all

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the things we know about. And I started running,

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and it hurt a lot with my three left knee surgeries

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and one right ankle surgery. But I still ran

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because I really enjoyed the shiny medals that

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I would get at races and all these goodies. So

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I was fighting for every single race in the region,

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and I found jogging for frogmen. And I thought,

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oh, wow, this just ticks off all the boxes. Support

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the military. We're here in Southern California.

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You know, get support. I come from a military

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family, so this is definitely deeply meaningful

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for me. And then the very bottom of the page

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in the sign of registration for Jogging for Frogmen

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said, members of the rucking division, get a

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free patch. Get this free patch and show the

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picture. And I went, what, free? Oh, free patch.

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I want that. Clicked on it, goruck .com. That

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was it. Boom. And then, again, tick the boxes.

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I love bags. And just the foundations of rocking,

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you know, walking, doing the same workout that

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I was already training for these running races,

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but now slowing it down, less pain on the joints,

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adding resistance to my daily workout by adding,

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just adding weight and burning more calories

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and just sweating it all off very quickly. Yeah.

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And I never trained to run again. I just rocked

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and then I might, but my times improved and I

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got faster and I was losing weight. It was just.

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Everything, I'm reaping all these benefits. It

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was only 2019 when I came to rucking and found

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it and that first race. And then we started a

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walking club at work. And we actually are the

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Triton Ruck Club because UC San Diego are Tritons.

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That's our mascot, our name. And so we adopted

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that, the Triton. What did it look like when

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you started pulling in new members outside of

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the department? When you started your walking

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club, what was that like? People slowly just

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found us. I didn't really know how to market.

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No one really does initially, right? And to this

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day, there's no budget. I don't spend a dime

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on marketing. But you have to be able to embrace

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every single platform. And if you want to grow

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your club, you truly need to just be prepared

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to market. And I'll create all different sizes

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of that image because you're going to put it

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on. I have a list. And everyone knows because

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you see us spamming it. But Facebook and different

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platforms and Instagram. Sandlot app from GoWork.

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We also partnered with Team RWB. Every single

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rock we do is partnered with them for their membership.

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So it goes on their website as well. I have put

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stuff on Meetup, on Sweat Pals, on, you know,

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just anything that we think will touch people

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who want to engage and get fit and are interested

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in community rocking or joint training. Okay.

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So it sounds like word of mouth and some social

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media mixed in. People started to... To get the

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idea, started to learn about you and then started

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joining on some of these rugs. Yes, I think I

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was pretty active on Instagram initially. That

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probably hit the most amount of people, Facebook

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and Instagram. And so we just started building

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out there. I think I know the first person. I

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don't know if she'd want me to put her name out

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there, but the first person who found us was

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Jill. In NorCal and SoCal, Encarnacion, she rocked

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with us, and we did a stairs event. The next

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month for 9 -11, we did a stairs event, and it

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was just five or six of us. And then we had a

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beer rock, a brewery rock, which is always fun

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and successful. That's going to bring a different

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mix of people, but it's fun because as someone

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who came into this for health, not a lot of our

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events are food -based. our alcohol base because

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we're all trying to be healthy yeah yeah so it

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well it is the most often the most successful

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rock it's not the most um healthy or or um one

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that'll bring continuous membership because it's

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kind of a one -off event for us to do a brewery

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rock uh but we did but but when we did for the

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first time i met my one of my best friends in

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the world Alex slash Joris, who is my co -leader

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in this endeavor and the leader of the San Diego

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Triton Rock Club. So we have me with Triton Rock

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Club. We have San Diego. We have Team RWB Rockers,

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who we have Luis in San Diego, who leads that.

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We have our NorCal group with Michelle and Christy.

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We have our Prevail group, which started as virtual

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and now is kind of North Carolina and Virginia

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Beach. That's Emma and now Long Beach with Nikki.

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So there's a lot. I didn't realize you had chapters

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outside of California. Do you have plans for

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starting chapters in other states? No plans for

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any chapters, but San Diego. In fact, if people

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ask me, Jessica, are you going to go to L .A.

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this weekend? I was like, you know what? My area

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of responsibility is San Diego. But I go to L

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.A. to help people out. But it's really like,

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L .A. has clubs. I want there to be 17 clubs

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in San Diego. ours Triton the biggest sure whatever

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but um but more rocking is is great and and uh

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everyone should just start it started we started

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ours because the closest club to us was California

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Rock Public based in LA and I wrote I checked

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in on their Facebook page to see if there are

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anyone active in SoCal or San Diego actually

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and and yes there were but I had to show up to

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an event to meet them No one was going to chime

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in on Facebook and say, yeah, I'll meet you at

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this location. I had to make the effort to show

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up and meet these people. And then the engagement

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began. So I wasn't really, you know, coming back

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from so many health situations myself and injuries,

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doing challenge events and endurance events was

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not where I started rucking. You see my face

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now, but you probably have not seen my face more

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than five times in seven years on that page,

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on any of our pages. So I'm not the face of Dragon

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Rock Club. The community is. Different people.

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It grows and it changes every month. Any rock

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club will stay active as long as the primary

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leader or the current leader loves rocking and

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loves the community. I can see the evolution

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of our club has grown and flexed based on...

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How would I feel that way? Like, do I love it

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this week? And, you know, if I arrive angry at

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a ruck, the people at that ruck are going to

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feel that and not come back. So I need to be

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engaged and happy and willing to embrace this

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community every time I show up. And if that's

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the goal, you know, if the ruck is about. and

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we're going to be just head down and locked in

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and going hard because we're training for a heavy

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different story. But if I'm showing up and I'm

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going to have a social rock this weekend, there

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better be a smile on my face and some money in

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my pocket. And I'm going to share some patches

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and embrace the community and really work to

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network that out. That's really cool. Have you

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embraced that mentality from the inception? Have

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you always showed up with a smile? I've learned

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this. You know, looking at the playbook for someone

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when you start a club, and I'm looking at either

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scheduling events, getting the word out, setting

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the tone of first events, but really about retaining

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members and gaining members. Your club is going

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to change over time constantly. And celebrate

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the people who show up. Don't mourn for the ones

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who aren't with you anymore. You know, and don't

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engage in the politics. Like everybody, everybody's

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going to have, you're going to have a lot of

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intrapersonal issues with people. I completely

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disengage from that. And I don't actually, since

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I used to be very, very active on socials personally,

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you know, I'm not anymore with the exception

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of probably Instagram regarding my personal family

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stuff and occasionally my rucking profile too,

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but I'm just not as active on socials because

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I... And I don't troll them anymore either other

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than to post what we're up to. So what I'm hearing

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is while you're there, you're kind of just living

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in the moment. You're celebrating the time that

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you have with each other right there and then.

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100%. 100%. And you celebrate the people who

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show up every day. You don't mourn for the fact

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that where's this person? Why didn't show up?

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You know what? This other person made a major

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effort to show up. My favorite thing and my most

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present. impressive thing to me is when a solo

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rocker shows up to your to a rock and they've

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that takes a lot of courage yeah step outside

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your comfort zone absolutely yeah i would always

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take a friend i did my first basic light at the

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time i i i convinced a co -worker i completely

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outfitted her in a rock i said we're going here

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this is what we're doing she's not talking to

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me anymore but She'll still send pictures. Remember

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that one time you made me do this thing? And,

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you know, but the people I met on that rock,

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I still know now. I met at that girl rock event.

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I noticed several of them are still very active

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in our club. And one of them once asked me, what

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happened to that girl you brought to that event?

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She was cute. Where did she go? Have you ever

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experienced burnout? Because you mentioned, you

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know. Me personally? A hundred percent. Yeah.

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But that's where you have Alex and Joris and

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Luis and, and, and Nikki who, and now Brittany,

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for example, who you have other teammates who

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you can depend on and, and Crystal who I can

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call and say, listen, I am, I'm not able to go

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this day. Can you help me out? Or, or I, I am

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not at, if you ask me my wrecking level, I'm

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still a beginner. I don't hit these trails. I

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will never do a tough, Never say never. But I

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certainly won't ever do a heavy. I don't have

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the capacity for it. And I don't even rock the

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long miles that I used to when I first started.

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I can barely go 5K these days because I'm old

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and tired, but that's just on me, right? So I'm

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really definitely behind the scenes. I'm not

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necessarily leading these rocks anymore, but

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I'm still helping organize them. And the other

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day, a guy said he wanted to do a Lord of the

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Rings themed rock. awesome i saw that on the

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on one of the instagram pages just like that's

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a cool idea everybody dressed up right yeah he

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he designed a patch he knew he knew what he wanted

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he had he's he had a ton of trivia he decided

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what rowdy wanted to do and my goal was to celebrate

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that and advertise the fact that all these people

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came together and did this showed up in costume

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margarita amazing um had trivia i don't know

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anything about those movies so Or books. I read

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them, but I don't remember now. Yeah, it was

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remarkable. It was great. And just celebrate

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that. Oh, also, so then we designed a t -shirt

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and I got flagged for copyright infringement.

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Oh, no. Uh -oh. I got some sirens in the background.

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I'm going to hold on for a second. Would they

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send you like a cease and desist or something?

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No, I submitted it to our t -shirt store that

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we have and the design was flagged. Design rejected,

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copyright infringement. Gotcha. So to your point

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before, relying on co -founders or other people

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in the community, stepping up and pulling some

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weight, you're the second person that has mentioned

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that in terms of running a or managing a Red

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Club chat. Hagerty at West orange Rutgers. He

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started that with a co -founder and he's mentioned,

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you know, if he travels, he's out of town. So

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who's, who's managing or who's planning these

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rucks. And so he relies on his co -founders as

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well. Um, so it's a, it's a team effort. Um,

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what was it? What was the, I know you mentioned,

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um, yeah, relying on others, but outside of that,

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is there another important thing that a club

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founder has to get right if they want the club

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to be sustainable? Is there anything else besides

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relying on others to kind of step in and help

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out? Oh my gosh. The number one is consistency.

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Consistency. I'm a production manager for live

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events in real life. So a lot of this was kind

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of easy flow for me to set up. But the same thing

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that I carry at work, which is consistency in

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building events, you know, putting it on the

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calendar, building a calendar that's public.

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We have a Google calendar. Not many people know

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about it. I need to share that more. Primarily,

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our events are listed on Facebook. We do have

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a website that's in development, but it's not

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as popular as posting on Instagram. Number one

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is consistency. Build a calendar. uh decide what

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you know decide what your events are as a as

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a core like it's your skeleton and build out

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from there like every month we do a lake rock

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we do uh the go rock tribe a workout and then

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we do a coffee rock after that and those are

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always on the calendar and if not uh something

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else is in the mix similar um you know i'm looking

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at kind of the model of run clubs we just i we

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i'm kind of exhausted by looking at run clubs

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because they have so many opportunities for just

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get outside and run we need to go get our gear

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yeah right so my goal would be to but i we just

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physically can't be as active as like that so

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we we shoot for at least uh two events a month

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uh used to do try to get every weekend but uh

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number one consistency build an event and put

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it on the calendar and then show up but you talked

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about some of the rucks that you go on you said

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you do a lake ruck coffee ruck can you describe

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the various events that you hold and Kind of

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like on what sort of schedule this would fall

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on? Yeah. Within the first two weeks of the month,

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we always have a ruck at Lake Murray, which is

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we have a couple of nice lakes with paths around

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them, concrete paths and or dirt paths. But they

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have a set trail. And then we show up at seven

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in the morning to a ruck. And then we have a

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little social hour after with fruit and donuts

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and coffee. And it's every month. no matter what.

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I almost always in there. If I'm not, I ask Alex

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or Louise to cover and yeah. And that's partnered

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with team RWB too with the San Diego chapter.

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And, and oftentimes they reimburse me for those,

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the expenses of the, of the treats and treats.

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So that's nice. And that's a, that's a out and

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back 5 .7 mile ruck. And then. We also do a monthly

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WOD. Some groups are doing, heck, they're doing

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two or three a week, and I'm good on them. But

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we're really spread out. We have people all over

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this county, and so I'm very honored and happy

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that we can gather at least once a month from

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the WODs. So we do the programming from Go Rock

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for the tribe, and they initially offer this

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discount. And then now some folks are still engaged,

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but it's completely free. And actually everything

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with Triton Rock Club is free. I've been encouraged

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to help to fund things to start a membership.

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You know what? I don't want to do that. I want

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to maintain that you show up, you're welcome.

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Because you know what? You can rock for free

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in your backyard. And, you know, unless you want

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to buy the patch. That's another story. Your

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patch is an expense. But we're just want to build

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a community of people and then, and I don't want

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to, I don't want to charge them because I don't

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want to charge them to something they can do

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on their own for free. Yeah, I agree. And should

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be. I think that says a lot about you because

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yeah, there definitely is an opportunity there

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to, to sort of, you know, make some money. But

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the fact that you're, well, one of the things

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you said in the mission statement is everyone's

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there for fitness. Like everyone is trying to

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better themselves. Why catapult ice on? Something

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like that. Let's just all get healthy together.

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Mental and physical fitness. Mental and physical.

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Agreed. Let's kind of talk to the person listening

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that once they start a club but doesn't necessarily

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know how. You just mentioned some of the various

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rucks that y 'all go on. When you're setting

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the schedule for the various rucks for the club,

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How did you decide how often to meet and what

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to do or the right cadence for the different

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types of rucks? Is that something that you just

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kind of worked out as you added rucks or did

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y 'all have a plan from the start? I'm just curious

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about that process. We were already rucking on

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campus Monday, Wednesday, Monday, excuse me,

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Tuesday, Thursday and on the weekends. And we

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were doing that internally and I put that in

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the community. The only thing I don't like working

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about this at this university is parking and

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parking is a major problem. That's why we had

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to get off campus. So just because I don't want

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to charge people to go for a walk and parking

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here is thirty six dollars a day, which is ridiculous.

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Yeah. Thirty six dollars a day. Yeah, that's

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almost criminal. Thank you. So we don't we don't

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want to charge people to pay for parking to just

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go for a walk. So that's why we started branching

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outward. And that immediately brought in the

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people. Like maintaining the isolation of being

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in one location, that restricted a lot of people.

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Oftentimes I would look at the map and say, oh,

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we haven't touched East County. But in terms

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of consistency and regularly scheduling events

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off campus, and that was... due to our team RWB

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captain at the time, he had to request, he goes,

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I just wanted to partner with them and say, hey,

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we got this new club thing going. I'd like to

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introduce Rocky to your people. He said, okay,

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you can start hosting events once a month. I'm

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like, wait, wait, what? I'm going to make you

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an Eagle leader. You're going to do this. I'm

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like, okay. So, you know, they have some onboard

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training. I listened to them. I'm like, all right.

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And so that's where I learned that consistency

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is a key. And one thing important to me, someone

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asked recently, why do you do Lake Murray every

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month? And I said, because in June, hopefully

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in June, when Kyle and Josh come back home from

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wherever the heck they are off the USS Lincoln,

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they know exactly where we're going to be. And

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in June, July, August, they already know that

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when they come home from deployment, we're going

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to be there for them. I'm curious about the ebb

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and flow of... I guess members, was there like

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a, a moment that, I don't know, you noticed like

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a drop off or was, has it just always consistently

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been increasing in numbers or just staying consistent?

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Were there any lulls throughout the, uh, throughout

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from its inception to where we are today? Oh

00:22:00.670 --> 00:22:04.490
yeah. Um, uh, we actually, this is a weird to

00:22:04.490 --> 00:22:07.759
say, but thank you to the pandemic and our amazing

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weather in socal because people wanted to stay

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active and they wanted to go outside and we were

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providing that content we really had events every

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weekend multiple events in fact even during the

00:22:19.299 --> 00:22:22.779
week we also partnered with the ucsd staff veterans

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association and they came up with ideas like

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the doing our turkey trotter halloween events

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and then there was another really cool one that

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they had I think it was related to Halloween,

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but, you know, just, you know, partnering with

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other groups to come up with ideas and then engagement

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and putting it out there. During the pandemic,

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our numbers surged because nothing else was going

00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:48.259
on. And people wanted to get outside and we didn't

00:22:48.259 --> 00:22:50.000
have to wear masks. We could be outside and we

00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:54.859
can enjoy people's company. And I didn't have

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anything going on. So it was basically my first

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full -time job. I was posting on our Facebook

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groups multiple times a day, every day, because

00:23:04.589 --> 00:23:06.069
the content was out there. Everybody was creating

00:23:06.069 --> 00:23:08.329
things at home, and we were just pushing out,

00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:11.710
doing rocks, posting online. So there was a genuine,

00:23:11.910 --> 00:23:14.910
for our group, a genuine surge during the pandemic.

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I would say it has regressed somewhat post -pandemic

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because we've got other stuff we can do now.

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We can go do races again. Yeah. But however,

00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.460
rucking in general has actually diversified and

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gotten, I think, more popular now. It's kind

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of got a resurgence and a growth. I've sort of

00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:41.940
noticed the same thing. Yeah, it kind of, there's

00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:43.920
definitely a rucking season. And I was curious

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in California, I mean, you don't have great weather

00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.859
all the time. Do you see seasonal fluctuations

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with memberships or is it just the people that

00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.250
are there dedicated? You do? Okay. Absolutely.

00:23:54.250 --> 00:23:57.450
Absolutely. And again, you go back to your foundation.

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Don't be discouraged. Just show up. Someone's

00:24:01.690 --> 00:24:03.269
like, oh, well, there's just not as many people.

00:24:03.329 --> 00:24:06.470
I'm like, there is half of this group. There

00:24:06.470 --> 00:24:09.750
are eight new people here today. So again, they're

00:24:09.750 --> 00:24:11.289
mourning for someone that they don't rock with

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anymore. I'm celebrating the people who showed

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up because they're going to be back tomorrow,

00:24:15.309 --> 00:24:20.349
hopefully. Because I know we have other things

00:24:20.349 --> 00:24:22.869
going on in our lives. But I mentioned it's the

00:24:22.869 --> 00:24:24.549
greatest courage is that solo rucker showing

00:24:24.549 --> 00:24:28.349
up in a new group. So I really just need to celebrate

00:24:28.349 --> 00:24:31.049
them and learn their name. And if they're military,

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I'll probably hand you a challenge going to.

00:24:33.309 --> 00:24:38.309
Oh, engagement. You know, building that patch,

00:24:38.509 --> 00:24:41.849
creating a patch or having it available and having

00:24:41.849 --> 00:24:45.049
something to hand to someone when they show up

00:24:45.049 --> 00:24:47.390
for the first time and to thank them for being

00:24:47.390 --> 00:24:50.769
there. That means a lot. Our club patch is not

00:24:50.769 --> 00:24:53.720
for sale. Well, it is for sale online, but I

00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.400
mean, I don't sell it. When someone shows up,

00:24:56.420 --> 00:24:58.000
I'm going to hand you a club patch because you

00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.720
are now a member of Triton Rock Club. We have

00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.240
other things that you can earn, but that initial

00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.240
club patch is open to everyone and it really

00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:11.180
embraces all levels, all are welcome at all times.

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Great. In your wildest dreams, did you ever think

00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:15.619
that Triton would grow into what it is currently

00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:19.859
from back when it was a walking club? No. way

00:25:19.859 --> 00:25:23.180
my co -worker my you know it's the seven years

00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:25.220
so we have so we had different cycles of co -workers

00:25:25.220 --> 00:25:27.940
to say they're like wait you know i actually

00:25:27.940 --> 00:25:30.920
have our new york times article here there's

00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:32.759
a we were featured in the times thank you go

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back on that we were recently featured in le

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mans the french magazine the french newspaper

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daily newspaper i know with a photo wow there

00:25:42.740 --> 00:25:47.539
was a multi spread on in men's health yes i saw

00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:51.269
i read that article yeah Yeah. Wow. That's phenomenal.

00:25:51.710 --> 00:25:54.730
Yeah. So never, never did you think it would

00:25:54.730 --> 00:25:58.730
get this big? No. And actually, I don't. So now,

00:25:58.769 --> 00:26:00.470
even though it was founded here on the campus,

00:26:00.809 --> 00:26:03.630
I actually don't advertise on campus that this

00:26:03.630 --> 00:26:06.609
club exists. I mean, that's a mistake. I need

00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:09.109
to restart. More with Jessica in just a moment,

00:26:09.170 --> 00:26:11.069
including her direct advice to anyone wanting

00:26:11.069 --> 00:26:13.829
to start their own rec club. But I want to take

00:26:13.829 --> 00:26:15.670
a quick break to say thanks for listening to

00:26:15.670 --> 00:26:17.869
the podcast. Please text this episode to a fellow

00:26:17.869 --> 00:26:19.569
Rucker that is maybe thinking about starting

00:26:19.569 --> 00:26:22.190
their own Ruck Club. Or maybe text it to someone

00:26:22.190 --> 00:26:24.390
you think would make a good co -founder for the

00:26:24.390 --> 00:26:26.630
Ruck Club that you're considering starting. Sharing

00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:28.750
this episode would help the show grow and help

00:26:28.750 --> 00:26:31.670
more people improve their health and lives. Okay,

00:26:31.750 --> 00:26:35.200
back to it. You mentioned that you're... You

00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.880
have Triton on the Sandlot app. What was your

00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.140
first involvement with GoRuck? How did you meet

00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:41.859
some of those folks? Did you reach out to them?

00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:44.319
Did they reach out to you? How did that go down?

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Yeah, I mentioned how I found it basically just

00:26:47.700 --> 00:26:49.380
through Jogging for Frogmen. And we got very

00:26:49.380 --> 00:26:53.200
active, very quick. And then I started tagging

00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.900
them in and everything we did. And probably took

00:26:56.900 --> 00:27:00.720
over the hashtag Ruck Club. I don't know. Sorry,

00:27:00.859 --> 00:27:04.279
guys. Just so much active engagement. In 2021,

00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.500
Jason came to town. Emily told me that he was

00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:10.240
coming. And I think they were trying to roll

00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.140
out Sandlot. And we just embraced every single

00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:17.819
activity that was not just rucking, but also

00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:22.359
had a military affiliation. Because, you know.

00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.619
having being such a strong navy and marine corps

00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:28.839
community here in socal it's just these are so

00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.839
many of our folks are veterans or affiliated

00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.680
or law enforcement affiliated that um everything

00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:36.759
that was you know related to rucking or running

00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:41.559
that had that affiliation we would jump on so

00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.079
anyway they were doing promotions for chad 1000

00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:49.609
we um One of our members had this amazing backyard

00:27:49.609 --> 00:27:51.670
home gym, and he offered to do a tribe workout

00:27:51.670 --> 00:27:57.230
in his backyard. And Jason showed up with Emily's

00:27:57.230 --> 00:28:00.029
prodding. And we had an amazing time. I should

00:28:00.029 --> 00:28:04.069
repost those photos. They were just sick. So

00:28:04.069 --> 00:28:07.509
that, I think it was through active, active social

00:28:07.509 --> 00:28:09.750
engagement. And then when they hosted their first

00:28:09.750 --> 00:28:12.619
stand lot, first and second, I went. with a group

00:28:12.619 --> 00:28:15.500
of folks, real hard chargers. And they did all

00:28:15.500 --> 00:28:17.240
the crazy stuff and I did all the politicking.

00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:20.160
And, you know, made sure like my big thing was

00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.920
like, we need to, that Marine HTB needs to continue

00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:28.180
because Cleve and the gang, it's an extremely

00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:32.539
special event, the Marine Recon Raider HTB. And

00:28:32.539 --> 00:28:34.019
if you're a hard charger and you think you're

00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:36.240
all that and you did brag, you've done brag,

00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.240
come out and do this event because you'll, you'll.

00:28:41.019 --> 00:28:43.740
experience more than what they do as marines

00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:46.319
from the mountains of horno and right into the

00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.720
oceans in san clemente same beach that they're

00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:50.779
going to hold olympics surfing by the way oh

00:28:50.779 --> 00:28:56.220
wow cool um so this you know that's kind of uh

00:28:56.220 --> 00:28:58.579
we've adopted it kind of like all of our members

00:28:58.579 --> 00:29:01.259
have done various iterations of the htb if not

00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:03.880
all of it and gotten their bolts and it's just

00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.480
so special but Because it means so much to the

00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.559
cadre. Because it's the training ground that

00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.180
they train on. That's awesome. So you mentioned

00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:14.519
earlier Jogging for Frogmen. I'm not familiar

00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.400
with that. Is that an organization? Jogging for

00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.559
Frogmen used to be part of the Navy SEAL Foundation.

00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.799
And now it is led by the Travis Manion Foundation.

00:29:24.180 --> 00:29:29.299
And all the profits go to Special Forces families.

00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:35.259
The case of Travis Mannion Foundation, their

00:29:35.259 --> 00:29:40.039
efforts all go to survivor families and veteran

00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:44.319
survivors. So it's, again, just so close to being

00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.440
from Southern California and the Military Foundations

00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.539
of Rocking. It aligned with our mission. So our

00:29:49.539 --> 00:29:51.799
mission statement is that we're an all -level

00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.259
community of rockers united in fitness through

00:29:54.259 --> 00:29:56.819
rock training and rocking. As a community, we

00:29:56.819 --> 00:29:59.079
are committed to supporting each other. and endeavors

00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.700
benefiting local military and first responder

00:30:01.700 --> 00:30:04.039
families through charitable events and engagement.

00:30:05.180 --> 00:30:08.339
Another thing that we do, which we adopted, which

00:30:08.339 --> 00:30:12.720
we inherited through some OG Ruckers who came

00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.779
to Rucking and the Go Ruck Inception events.

00:30:16.589 --> 00:30:19.430
It was this wonderful, we do the Santa Ruck annually

00:30:19.430 --> 00:30:22.190
and that benefits the Rady Children's Hospital

00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:26.990
and Ronald McDonald House. So we do a community

00:30:26.990 --> 00:30:28.950
ruck, everybody rucks their toys and donations.

00:30:29.089 --> 00:30:32.630
And then we also sell the patch and have a small

00:30:32.630 --> 00:30:37.970
fundraiser and we do raffles to benefit the Ronald

00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:41.150
McDonald House every year. So you throw the toys

00:30:41.150 --> 00:30:43.809
in the rucksack? Is that what you're doing? That's

00:30:43.809 --> 00:30:45.980
cool. And you go to a destination and drop them

00:30:45.980 --> 00:30:49.059
off? Where are you dropping them off? Rady Children's

00:30:49.059 --> 00:30:52.339
and the Ronald McDonald House in San Diego. Oh,

00:30:52.460 --> 00:30:55.700
that's really cool. I've heard of people stuffing

00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:59.220
non -perishable goods for Thanksgiving. And this

00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:01.859
is another cool thing for another holiday, Ruck.

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.279
That's awesome. That's really cool. We've done

00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.259
that, too. How many people come out for something

00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:08.140
like that? What kind of numbers are you generating?

00:31:08.779 --> 00:31:11.180
Oh, my gosh. Our Santa Brooke is definitely the

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:13.400
most successful. Last year, we had about 55,

00:31:13.579 --> 00:31:16.700
but the previous year, there were over 85. And

00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:20.019
what happened is there was a National Guard unit

00:31:20.019 --> 00:31:22.440
deployed here in San Diego, and they were looking

00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.920
for ways for community engagement for their troops.

00:31:26.019 --> 00:31:29.200
And they came along and bolstered our numbers

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.039
and built a great relationship with this group

00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.259
of National Guardsmen from Michigan. Shout out

00:31:35.259 --> 00:31:37.450
to those guys. That's great. No, that's fantastic.

00:31:37.730 --> 00:31:42.029
So what other community, what's the word I'm

00:31:42.029 --> 00:31:45.069
looking for? What other community outreach engagement

00:31:45.069 --> 00:31:48.309
activities do y 'all do? So you have the Santa

00:31:48.309 --> 00:31:50.569
Ruck, what else do you do? So there's a lot,

00:31:50.650 --> 00:31:53.250
being in SoCal, we try to support the 5Ks that

00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:56.289
we can do. Either there's already a rucking division

00:31:56.289 --> 00:32:01.569
or we will support them doing tables and fundraising.

00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.839
But most often it's folks who are just jumping

00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.220
in for a 5K and then supporting an event or a

00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:10.960
cause. Wounded Warrior Project does a carry forward

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.160
5K here. I mentioned Jogging for Frogmans 5K

00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.819
from the Travis Mannion Foundation. And they

00:32:18.819 --> 00:32:21.680
also host the 9 -11 Heroes Run here too. And

00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.839
that actually is pretty more prolific that there's

00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.279
going to be a 9 -11 Heroes Run near you. And

00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.079
all of these can have a virtual element that

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.220
you can do in your neighborhood with your friends.

00:32:30.460 --> 00:32:33.759
You can buy in, get the t -shirt and patch, and

00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.099
support these organizations, these quality organizations.

00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.900
Getting back to helping the person that wants

00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:45.200
to create their own local rec club, if there's

00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.880
someone out there that was sort of in your shoes

00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.799
thinking about starting a rec club, what would

00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.599
you say to them? What biggest piece of advice

00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:54.819
would you give to them? You've already mentioned

00:32:54.819 --> 00:32:56.900
several, you know, staying consistent, setting

00:32:56.900 --> 00:32:59.099
your schedule, getting the word out. Is there

00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:05.829
anything else that you'd give to them? You put

00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:08.130
things on the calendar and you show up. Guess

00:33:08.130 --> 00:33:10.309
what? For two months to six months, no one's

00:33:10.309 --> 00:33:13.930
going to be there. But then, you know, you invite

00:33:13.930 --> 00:33:17.289
your friends, but you're always there. The club

00:33:17.289 --> 00:33:19.750
is going to change. Unless you change leadership,

00:33:19.869 --> 00:33:23.029
that club is going to change constantly. And

00:33:23.029 --> 00:33:26.829
in your eyes. And you need to prepare for it.

00:33:26.829 --> 00:33:29.670
And you also just, in terms of consistency, if

00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:32.410
someone else, like when Cody wanted to do his

00:33:32.410 --> 00:33:35.609
Lord of the Rings rock, I asked people to tell

00:33:35.609 --> 00:33:39.630
me at least three weeks in advance so that we

00:33:39.630 --> 00:33:41.410
could put it on the schedule and then advertise

00:33:41.410 --> 00:33:43.349
and push. And because people have lives, especially

00:33:43.349 --> 00:33:46.390
post -pandemic, we have a lot of things to do.

00:33:46.430 --> 00:33:48.470
Our personal schedules, you know, when our vacations

00:33:48.470 --> 00:33:50.509
are going to be, you know, our kids are going

00:33:50.509 --> 00:33:53.839
back to school. You know, we have... you don't

00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.420
want, we don't have big tournaments and you're

00:33:55.420 --> 00:33:57.900
like, we just want to work around what you have

00:33:57.900 --> 00:34:00.640
going on. And, and so put that, put something

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.059
on the schedule and show up and put it well in

00:34:03.059 --> 00:34:04.640
advance so people can help plan their lives.

00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.039
If you're telling someone on an Instagram story,

00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.539
two days before you're going to go for a hike,

00:34:09.659 --> 00:34:13.139
enjoy your hike. Cause you're going to be on

00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:15.940
there by yourself. Don't expect to get a group

00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:19.360
of 15. You know, if you haven't set the schedule,

00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.760
like, Hey, every third Saturday we hike where.

00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:25.949
when you know like so also the thing is like

00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:29.230
so i mentioned consistency communication i will

00:34:29.230 --> 00:34:30.929
kick back something like somebody wants to lead

00:34:30.929 --> 00:34:34.110
a hike i will ask you serious questions um all

00:34:34.110 --> 00:34:36.489
right not necessarily what's the title where

00:34:36.489 --> 00:34:39.489
where are you where are you hiking where's what's

00:34:39.489 --> 00:34:42.909
the all trails not bad for it will leak what's

00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:47.989
the distance what's the expected pace What equipment

00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:49.349
do you want something to bring? Are they going

00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:51.710
to bring a ruck and a sandbag? How much weight?

00:34:51.849 --> 00:34:53.070
Are you going to look and, you know, is weight

00:34:53.070 --> 00:34:57.050
required? Of course, water and nutrition. But,

00:34:57.130 --> 00:34:59.510
oh, and the other thing in San Diego, Southern

00:34:59.510 --> 00:35:02.429
California, parking. What's the parking situation?

00:35:02.869 --> 00:35:05.610
Is it paid? Is it unpaid? All of this information

00:35:05.610 --> 00:35:08.530
three weeks in advance, I want to know when I

00:35:08.530 --> 00:35:11.030
said it, because every single question, I want

00:35:11.030 --> 00:35:14.800
to answer your question about an event. before

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:18.300
you ask it so so that new person can all they

00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:20.079
do is look for the people in the backpacks and

00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.039
they show up because every other question's been

00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.019
answered they know what to expect they know how

00:35:24.019 --> 00:35:27.619
many what their expected pace will be they know

00:35:27.619 --> 00:35:29.659
that you know how much they should carry or not

00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:31.340
carry i don't care if you carry a backpack or

00:35:31.340 --> 00:35:33.880
not just show up are you putting that information

00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.219
in the social media posts or is that in the google

00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:40.980
calendar goals it's supposed to try we try We

00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:43.679
try to put as much information as possible in

00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.960
the post and also on the event post on every

00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.699
platform. Embracing the multiple various platforms,

00:35:51.980 --> 00:35:54.699
you know, unfortunately, I don't want to be on

00:35:54.699 --> 00:35:56.320
social media and I don't want to be on Facebook

00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.440
anymore. But you got to do it because that's

00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.000
where you're going to engage still with folks

00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.119
who are seeking community. So that's one thing.

00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.090
Be ready to open up to partnerships. And embrace

00:36:10.090 --> 00:36:14.590
every rocker. You know, I keep saying celebrate

00:36:14.590 --> 00:36:16.869
the person who's there. It doesn't matter where

00:36:16.869 --> 00:36:18.590
they came from. It doesn't matter what rock club

00:36:18.590 --> 00:36:22.090
they represent. You know, if they showed up,

00:36:22.090 --> 00:36:24.710
they're doing the work, build that community

00:36:24.710 --> 00:36:26.969
with that. Help, you know, with that person.

00:36:27.829 --> 00:36:31.449
Cool. And yeah. Well, Jessica, this was a lot

00:36:31.449 --> 00:36:33.469
of fun. Thank you so much for spending some time

00:36:33.469 --> 00:36:35.989
with me today. Oh, especially. I appreciate it.

00:36:36.570 --> 00:36:38.389
All right, that wraps up my conversation with

00:36:38.389 --> 00:36:40.949
Jessica Flores from Triton Ruck Club. You can

00:36:40.949 --> 00:36:43.030
connect with her on Instagram at ruckinstigator,

00:36:43.289 --> 00:36:45.429
and you can connect with Triton Ruck Club on

00:36:45.429 --> 00:36:48.230
Instagram as well at tritonruckclub. I'll drop

00:36:48.230 --> 00:36:50.530
links to both of those in the show notes. If

00:36:50.530 --> 00:36:52.010
you want to reach out to me, head on over to

00:36:52.010 --> 00:36:55.190
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00:36:55.690 --> 00:36:57.570
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00:37:05.650 --> 00:37:07.409
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00:37:07.409 --> 00:37:09.590
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00:37:09.590 --> 00:37:12.190
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00:37:12.610 --> 00:37:14.969
Okay, that's it for today. Thanks again for listening

00:37:14.969 --> 00:37:17.090
to this episode of The Rucker's Edge.