Rucking for a Cause: Using Rucking to Raise Awareness for Arthritis

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Movement is medicine. That phrase came to mind

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multiple times during the conversation with my

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guest this week. It's the idea that the more

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you move, the more you reduce your risk for diseases

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like type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure.

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But movement also helps manage health conditions

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like depression, anxiety, and the condition we

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talk about in this episode, which is arthritis.

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My guest today is Travis Chapman, the founder

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of Ruck Forward and the creator of the Ruck Arthritis

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Challenge. In this episode, Travis shares his

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inspiration behind Ruck Forward. You'll hear

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how he's using the rucking community to raise

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awareness, encourage movement, and support arthritis

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research. We also talk about discovering rucking

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later in life, using movement to improve physical

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and mental health, and what it's like living

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alongside someone battling chronic arthritis

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pain. Welcome to the Rutgers Edge podcast, a

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show all about rucking that is designed to help

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you improve your rucking routine, lose weight,

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and ultimately gain your strength and energy

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back. Each episode dives into the science, stories,

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and strategies behind rucking. You'll learn from

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top ruckers, coaches, health experts, and performance

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specialists who break down what it takes to train

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smarter, recover faster, and stay ready for the

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next challenge. So whether you're new to rucking

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or an experienced rucker that's already logged

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hundreds of miles, this is the show for you.

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I'm your host, Spencer. Thanks for listening

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in. Please enjoy my conversation with Travis

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Chapman from Ruck Forward. Travis, thanks so

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much for joining me here on the Rucker's Edge

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podcast. I really appreciate you being here.

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Yeah, no problem at all, man. This is great.

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Excited you're doing it. It's awesome. So a mutual

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friend introduced us and Kayla and you were just

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on her podcast. Really great episode. And I think

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it's going to be sort of more of the same. I

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really enjoyed hearing your purpose and I want

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to kind of dive deeper into that right now. So

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before we get into rucking specifically, I kind

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of want to talk about your fitness background,

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if you don't mind. What did your relationship

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with fitness look like? I guess like growing

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up and then entering adulthood. Okay. Well, when

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I was younger, I played a lot of different sports,

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some organized, some not. Usually the two big

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ones were football and basketball. I can't say

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I was really great or good at either one of them.

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I mean, I've played, like I said, organized sports

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for a while up until about high school or so.

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And then on the... like just on your own kind

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of thing in the neighborhood, running around,

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you know what I mean? Pick up games, stuff like

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that. Some of the more interesting times were

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actually, you know, I grew up in Maine. And so

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in the winters, obviously it snows and you got

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all that going on. And sometimes we'd go out

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in the snow and you're tackling each other into,

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you know, piles of snow and things like that.

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It was just fun, you know, it was just something

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cool to get outside. And then as I've gotten

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older and, you know, it's one of those things

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where I mentioned this to Kayla, it's like, So

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exercise has kind of been hit or miss with me.

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Like maybe I'd, okay, let's join a gym, you know,

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beginning of the year kind of thing, right? Let's

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go try that. Maybe a couple months maybe at that,

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you know what I mean? And same with like other

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types of just exercise things. And then like,

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you know, a year ago, basically found rucking

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and haven't looked back. Like, I don't know what

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it is about it. Can't exactly put my finger on

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what has clicked, you know what I mean? But it's

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clicked, so. uh, you know, just keep moving forward.

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Yeah. I, uh, I'm sort of that same boat. It's

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like, um, I can't tell you how many times I've

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had a new year's resolution to be like, all right,

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this is the year I'm going to take my health

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back. I'm going to get in the gym. And then by

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early February, just like, what is it? Like 75

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% of the people in the United States that have

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that goal, no longer going to the gym anymore

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and also found rucking and found it to be sustainable.

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And I kind of want to, yeah, let's, let's talk

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about that. So how did rucking into your life?

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Like how did you get introduced to it? Yeah,

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so I found Go Ruck online and I just saw the

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name Go Ruck and I was like, Go Ruck? Like, what

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is this? Not that I hadn't heard of a ruck or

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rucking, but it was more like Go Ruck. You kind

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of go, what is this? And so I looked, immediately

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went on their website, started seeing kind of

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how they are, what they do, what it's about.

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Then I watched a bunch of their videos on their

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YouTube channel because... I was just so intrigued

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by it. I don't know what it was about. And the

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culture, community aspect of it was kind of interesting

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to me that they talk about. And so anyway, so

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I took a look at all that stuff. And then I just

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kind of made up my mind that day, I'm going to

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go rock. And in the past, or in my normal life

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as a job, things like that, I have a... a bag,

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camera bag that's loaded with gear, might weigh

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20, 25 pounds. And depending on the shoot, I

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might be carrying a backpack around like if I'm

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on the road or something. So I have rucked technically,

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you know, before, but never really thought about

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it as like a thing, you know, to go do. And so

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that day I took the camera bag I had, loaded

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it up with gear and it was about 20, 25 pounds.

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And I went out to the spot that I, you know,

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kind of knew was pretty much a mile, a little

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over a mile. And I just rucked that one mile

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and that was it. And I said, yeah, I'm going

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to do this again tomorrow. And so then from there,

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it was pretty much just every day, like unless

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something came up and I couldn't do it, you know,

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I'd just go. And I was using that same gear for

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probably about two months. And the only thing

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that changed was around that time, GORUCK had

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their like winter or Christmas in July sale.

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So I ended up buying some gear from them. I didn't

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get a bag at that point, but I did get some weights.

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And I took an older camera bag I had because

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I didn't want to ruin the one I was using, even

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though probably from a technical standpoint,

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it was a better structured bag. And put it in

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one of those old bags. And I used that, like

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I said, about two months. And then in September,

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I got a Rucker 4 .0. And switched over to that.

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Man, what a difference. Like, I knew it would

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feel better, I hoped. But when I put that thing

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on for the first time with the weight in there,

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I was like, oh, my God, this is so much better.

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It's crazy, you know? Yeah. It really is. But,

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yeah, and then I've just been doing it ever since.

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And, you know, I mean, I've done a few 5Ks, events,

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things like that. I actually just did this one

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a couple weeks ago out in St. Augustine. It was

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actually a runner walk, and I did it as a ruck

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with, I think I had like 40 pounds. Actually

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had my best time. I really tried to push myself

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on it. I did about like I think it's like 13

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minutes or so a mile, something like that. It

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was kind of crazy. But anyways, it was fun. But

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yeah, I've just been doing that ever since. And

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like I said, the only time it kind of shifts

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is if like something happens and it's just not

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going to work out that day. Then I might say,

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OK, I'm just going to call it a day and be good

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with things, you know. Yeah. But on a quick side

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note. for Kayla's ruck in January, which was

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the ruck 10 times, you pick the date, weight,

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all that kind of stuff. I actually, when I saw

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that in December, I said, I'm going to do this.

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And the way my schedule was lining up, I was

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going to be on the road for almost a week in

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the first week of January. So I said, I'm going

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to start on the first year in Florida, did two

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days of rucking in Florida, two days in Texas,

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two days in Georgia. and then two or three rucks

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back here. And the stuff on the road was back

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in the backpack again. So it was back with camera

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gear in the bag, and I just found a spot that

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looked pretty good. It was about, whatever, one

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or two miles is what I made it into, maybe two

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or three miles. you know, thing, but that one

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was fun. It was, it was a cool one to do just

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because of that, you know, it's like, okay, this

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would be kind of neat to do it somewhere else,

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you know? Yeah. Oh, that's great. So you started

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out going a mile and then how quickly did you

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progress? Did you start going faster? Did you

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start going longer? How did you progress in your

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rucking journey, I guess? Yeah. Yeah. So basically,

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you know, my whole approach to this just as sort

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of a disclaimer for how I'm doing it was. I'm

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going to take this super slow. And the reason

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why is I was worried about if I went out and,

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and everybody tells you kind of in their stuff

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too, like on go rucks page, like they're, you

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know, don't go out with a hundred pounds and

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then wonder why you're injured. Right. Or something

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like that. So I tried to keep it simple, tried

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to keep it in a place where, okay, like for instance,

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just as a quick snapshot, I was with that 20

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pounds for probably about a month. And then I

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had these little weights that I'd kind of throw

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in there. And I moved up to a 30 -pound plate.

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And then by the time, I guess it was like fall,

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maybe around the time I did the first 5K Ruck,

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that was an event, a virtual event. I think it

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was probably around 40 pounds or so, somewhere

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in that range. Um, and then I kept that on for

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probably another two months, you know, as far

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as the pace, the pace, I didn't mess with too

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much. I try to go faster and stuff, but I was

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mostly concerned with either shifting the weight

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or the distance I'd go. And then I did a 5k in

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November. And at that point I was up to 45 pounds

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up at the headquarters and go rock in Jacksonville.

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And it was a 5k, but it was kind of like a scavenger

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hunt 5k. I didn't quite grasp all this until

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I got there. And so if you don't, just a side

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note, if you don't enter the address right, you're

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going to have a hard time figuring out why you

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can't find this thing. And that's what I did

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on one of them. So I ended up walking like probably

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more closer to like four and a half, almost five

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miles to find all these points, you know. And

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so anyways, needless to say, I get back and I

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realize that because I knew I did. I'm like,

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there's no way that was three miles, you know.

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And it got me thinking. I'm going to just try

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and just see how far I go next week with 45 pounds.

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So on that Sunday, I just took the 45 pounds,

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went out and basically did 7 .5 miles. It was

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about a 12K. And then since that time, I've done

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some other challenges like that, whether it be

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like, I'll just go into trails and just do trails

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and see how, you know, see how far I go on that.

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But that's, and now I'm just kind of at a point

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where like. And essentially, I'm back to rucking

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every day, even though after I had read Kayla's

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book, I was doing a break thing for a while.

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And as I kind of told her on her podcast, I said,

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you know, I tried it for a couple of weeks. I

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said, and on those days where I was taking a

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break, I was going nuts. Like, I'm just like,

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I just got to go do a mile. Like, if I just go

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do a mile, even with 20 pounds, I'll be happy,

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you know. And so I shifted it up. And basically

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what I've done now. is i'll have days that are

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purposely like i'm gonna go out and go heavy

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go long that kind of thing and then other days

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where it's like okay like yesterday i'm just

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gonna go do a mile you know what i mean it was

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just one of those days i thought like i'm just

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doing a mile um and that's kind of how i do it

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so that's that's kind of where we're at right

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now but uh that's kind of how it sort of progressed

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oh that's great so it sounds like you're being

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very consistent that you're getting out there

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every day and yeah i'm similar to you if if i

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don't if i don't move If I don't rock, if I don't

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run or move my body in any way, I kind of not

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get stir crazy, but my body needs it. My mind

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needs it. I'm a different person if I'm not doing

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something physical. But let's move on to ruck

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forward. When it comes to ruck forward and what

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that is, that was just an idea I had. A few months

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back, I thought it was a cool idea, the abbreviation

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of forward in there, all that kind of stuff.

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I just thought it was kind of cool, but I didn't

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know what I would do with it. I just was like,

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I don't know what I'd do at this point with something

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like that. And so I just kind of left it alone

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and wrote it down somewhere. And then about a

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month or so ago, maybe a little less now, and

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I thought of the whole ruck arthritis idea. One

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of the things we do, I work for... a company

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that does implants and replacements, you know,

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for people and things like that, knee, hip, that

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kind of thing. And, you know, we always talk

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about these different things like, you know,

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arthritis month, what are we going to post about

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it? You know, what are some different things?

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And for some reason, in one of those meetings,

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it just hit me like, I should tie rucking to

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arthritis and do something, you know, and obviously,

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you know, it was kind of one of those things

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that just sort of hit me. And so as I was thinking

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about all this, it didn't make sense to me to

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just do a website dedicated just to the ruck

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arthritis thing, because immediately I started

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thinking like, well, if this is successful, I

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could do this maybe with other things that I'm

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kind of passionate about to raise funds for those

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organizations. maybe I can do this ruck forward

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thing is kind of a resource where like, I'm not

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a professional. I'm not a, I'm, I've only been

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rucking just under a year. Um, so I know for

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me, like people like yourself and other people

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that put things out there, I'm always looking

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for those things to watch, you know, whether

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it's somebody reviewing a bag or some other component

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like that, like, Hey, this is me rucking every

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day. This is why I do it. Right. So ruck forward

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to me right now is I view it as a sort of a resource

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for rucking, you know, and the fact that I feel

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like it's something that will hopefully benefit

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people, get people motivated to go out. And then

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the Ruck Arthritis Challenge is part of that

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right now, a big part of it, obviously, because

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of the month of May being National Arthritis

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Awareness Month. And so anyway, so that's kind

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of how I'm viewing things right now, because

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like I said, there are some other things out

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there that I started thinking about, like, oh,

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that would be kind of a cool thing to do as a...

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Maybe a fundraiser or something like that. Like,

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just as an example, we got our boxer from a rescue

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here in North Florida. It'd be kind of cool maybe

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to do a fundraiser for those guys. You know what

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I mean? Some kind of ruck or whatever. And so

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that's why I kind of did the ruck forward thing.

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And I just like the idea, too, of just behind

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ruck forward. You're moving forward. When you're

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rucking, you're hopefully leaving maybe any kind

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of negative stuff that's going on behind you.

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It's a good space to kind of clear your head.

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It's nice to just dump stuff or just not think

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of anything. You just want to put some music

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on and just, I'm moving. It's really cool to

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hear people like yourself using platforms to

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create. goodness within their community, whether

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it's a, you know, a rock club doing something

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for Thanksgiving or Christmas or what have you,

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or, uh, green beret fitness, this is the same

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thing. And now I'm hearing, hearing you trying

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to use your platform to, for the betterment of

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your community and, uh, the little piece of the

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earth that you have over there. Um, where are

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you in Orlando? I'm just north of Orlando. So

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the Gainesville area, University of Florida,

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that's basically where I'm at. I'm at the neck

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of the woods. Gainesville. Sorry, LSU fan here.

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No, I'm just kidding. Oh, you didn't. Okay, we're

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going to have to. I should have told you that

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before we started recording. Where's my gator

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hat? But I wanted to get back to something you

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mentioned earlier in the show. You said you work

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for a company that does some, what do they do?

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Joint replacements or what was it that you said?

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So the name of the company is Advita Ortho, and

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basically they do joint replacements. So they

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are providing the instrumentation, the technology

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to the surgeons, and they're the ones actually

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doing everything. And so I've worked with them.

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actually going back over 10 years when i was

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at a production company before i started working

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for them directly as an employee and so i've

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seen over the years like numerous uh testimonial

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videos that we've done or heard about patients

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that had arthritis got a joint replaced you know,

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kind of one of those wish we had done it sooner

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kind of moments, right, is usually what you hear

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because they're in that pain, they're struggling

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with it every day, can't do what they'd normally

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do, even if it's just as simple as literally

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getting up out of a chair or getting into a chair,

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you know, something like that. And it was kind

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of funny because when we were talking about the

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arthritis month thing, one of the things I said

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in one of the meetings we had, because I'm, you

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know, I'm just like, you know, like anything

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you're throwing ideas around, it's like, you

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know, maybe we could do a preventative thing,

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you know, and getting people not to get an implant,

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you know, like not say don't get one, but like

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get yourself in a position where hopefully you

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don't need to do this, you know, because at the

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end of the day, it's all done. You're feeling

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better when it's done. Typically there, you know,

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hopefully everything goes well for that patient,

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but you know, if you don't have to do those things,

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I mean, at the end of the day, it's probably

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better for you. But yeah, seeing some of these

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people and listening to their stories over the

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years, there's always those moments where you're

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just like, wow, holy cow, I'm so lucky that I

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can move around and do the things I'm doing.

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And one of the other things my brother said that

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was kind of interesting, kind of tying it back

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into this, is he said, because one of the things

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I got thinking about is he's like, you're a few

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years older than me, and you've been out here

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doing this thing. And he's like, you know, we're

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not getting any younger. And he's like, you know,

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how many years do you have left that you can

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start that momentum of the movement and going

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and doing that where if I wait another five years

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or whatever it is, am I going to be able to do

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it? You know what I mean? If I don't start now.

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So he, I thought that was an interesting perspective

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on it because honestly, I wasn't really. necessarily

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thinking about that when I started doing it.

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And even as I've done it, you know, I'm glad

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I'm doing it. Um, but it was kind of like, that's

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a, that's an interesting point. And, and like

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I mentioned, I think I mentioned this earlier,

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but like the idea of, you know, if you can do

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some of these things, even if it's doesn't have

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to be rucking, but it'd be awesome if it is,

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um, you know, just getting out there with 10

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pounds or nine pounds or whatever it is, and

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just doing that mile or half a mile, and then

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just slowly ramping it up, you know, Could somebody

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that's prone maybe to arthritis, some form of

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arthritis, slow that symptom coming on? Slow

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that pain coming to their system because they're

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moving. And that's something you hear a lot.

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People talking about the more you're moving,

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sometimes that can help with some of these things.

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Sure. Yeah, I unfortunately have arthritis in

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my ankle. And I have family members that have

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arthritis too. And speaking with my rheumatologist,

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one of the first things he said is like, honestly,

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move. The term movement as medicine is not phony

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baloney stuff. At my age, fortunately, I'm young

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enough, like you're alluding to, my body is at

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a stage where it's like if I keep moving, it's

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actually a good thing for that condition. Obviously,

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you don't want to do it too hard because you'll

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probably create a flare -up. But yeah, just start

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slow and start... When I started rucking, I walked

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first. I was like, I'm not adding 50 pounds just

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going out for the first time. I walked for the

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first, I don't know, month or so, and then gradually,

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like I mentioned before, I added weight until

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I'm finally out of weight that I'm really happy

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with. With Ruck Forward, are you trying to target

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anybody specifically, or are you just casting

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a wide net to see who's willing to participate?

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Well, the way I approached the challenge was

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that I got thinking about it, too, because I'm

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like, the whole ruck, arthritis was just something

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i thought was a cool name obviously there's some

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implied things there um and you know as i was

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talking to people about it i said you know but

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i you don't have to rock it i don't care what

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you do if you want to run it if you want to walk

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it that's great and when it comes to the the

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rucking side of things the way i view that is

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like you know you may or may not have an interest

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like this just happened literally yesterday um

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you know my brother He's up in Maine still. And

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he's been following me on Instagram. So he's

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seen the whole rucking thing, what I've been

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up to. And he said to me, he said, I was kind

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of interested in it. He's like, but I just didn't

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know if I wanted to do it, that kind of thing.

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And so yesterday, or the day before, he had watched

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the interview with Kayla. And I wake up yesterday

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to a bunch of messages from him. And I'm like,

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uh -oh, what is going on here? And he's like...

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Hey, I'm doing this rucking thing. He's like,

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I went on your site. I bought the patches. He's

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like, uh, Bree and I, that's his wife. He's like,

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we're going to do this. And I'm like, holy cow.

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I was just like shocked, you know? And I said,

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you know, this is what I'm talking about. Like,

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this is my brother and it is my, you know, it's

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obviously family, but it's still the fact that

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he, you know, cause he said to me, he said, you

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know, I watched the interview and he's like,

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I gotta be honest with you, man. He's like, I

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was really inspired by what you had to say. And

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he's like, so I just said, you know what? I'm

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going to go do it, you know? And so hopefully,

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you know, he'll get out there and he'll get after

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it and have fun with it. Because the biggest

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thing for me is like if, yeah, even if you're

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just getting outside and walking, you know what

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I'm saying? You're getting something. And especially

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with arthritis, just to throw that in the mix

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here, you know, when I look at some, like some

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of the posts I've been doing are also kind of

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like, I'll call it a wellness thing, but I'm

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not like a doctor or anything. So it's just stuff

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I'm seeing as far as factoids for rucking or.

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you know, maybe something interesting about arthritis

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that is an awareness thing. And just like, I

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think I posted one the other day about like bone

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density, you know, is something you get gain,

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I guess, through rucking, you know, it helps

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to keep that. And, you know, you kind of wonder

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with people that have arthritis, you know, if

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they had maybe when they were a little younger,

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started doing something like this, you know,

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could that have helped prevent? the onset of

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maybe some of the symptoms they're getting, delayed

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that a little bit maybe. So that's why some of

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the posts I've been putting up aren't just like

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me out there rucking and that kind of stuff,

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but there's also some of these little things.

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And then I like to have fun. Like today I put

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up a song where I'm replacing rock with ruck,

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that kind of thing. So just stuff that kind of...

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is fun for me to do. So I'm hoping that by doing

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that, that maybe that will also widen the net

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a little bit. But, you know, as of right now,

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it's probably going to be mostly people interested

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in rucking are going to be the first people to

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look at it. Probably I'm guessing if they're

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like searching rucking or if it pops up. But

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yeah, I mean, Hey, you know, just get outside

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is really the biggest thing. I agree. I mean,

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that's, that's, that's so great that your, your

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brother, you, you, you hooked somebody like that's,

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that's one of the best feelings, especially someone

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that you, you know, care about and it's like

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yes we're doing it this is great yeah he literally

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made my day yesterday it was it was funny because

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i it later in the day i think i did a post about

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it but i mean just to expand on it just a touch

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it was like i just kept thinking about it and

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it just blew me away because one totally unexpected

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did not see that coming at all you know and,

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uh, and hoping to see more of it. You know what

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I mean? If people get out there and do their

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rucks and post about it, tag us, whatever I'll,

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you know, I'm probably going to be just doing

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a lot of resharing and things like that, because

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why not? I mean, that's the whole point in my

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opinion to kind of let, Hey, this, this person

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decided they go do it. You know what I mean?

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I think that's, that's cool. So sorry, I didn't

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mean to step on you. No, no, that's, that's excellent

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information. And you mentioned, um, the challenge,

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ruck arthritis before we get into that and to

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the challenge. Um, I kind of want to just, I

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want to understand why you chose arthritis awareness.

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I saw a post, I think that you put out on Instagram

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saying how few rheumatologists there are. Can

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you kind of expand like why you chose arthritis

00:23:00.349 --> 00:23:02.410
awareness and what you found out through some

00:23:02.410 --> 00:23:05.230
research that you've been doing? Yeah, so basically

00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:09.990
my wife has rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis.

00:23:10.230 --> 00:23:12.690
And I do have other family members that have.

00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.880
arthritis as well. But she was kind of the motivation

00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:20.579
behind the idea of that, obviously, because we

00:23:20.579 --> 00:23:21.880
live with it, you know, we've been living with

00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:25.559
it for a while. And basically, you know, just

00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:28.339
going back, so like, you know, she was diagnosed

00:23:28.339 --> 00:23:31.279
several years ago with it. And she could still

00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.380
kind of like get around, she obviously did stuff,

00:23:33.380 --> 00:23:35.259
you know, we'd go out, go to the beach, do different

00:23:35.259 --> 00:23:38.079
things, you know. And then about a year ago,

00:23:38.750 --> 00:23:41.130
What they think happened was she had kind of

00:23:41.130 --> 00:23:44.170
a flare up from maybe both the conditions at

00:23:44.170 --> 00:23:46.470
one time where it just took her down. Like we

00:23:46.470 --> 00:23:50.630
were in and out of the ER for a bit. And then

00:23:50.630 --> 00:23:53.890
we went to see her rheumatologist and, you know,

00:23:53.910 --> 00:23:56.829
tried to get her squared away. Since then, you

00:23:56.829 --> 00:23:58.549
know, she's tried a few different medications

00:23:58.549 --> 00:24:01.630
to help with the pain. And she's definitely gotten

00:24:01.630 --> 00:24:04.329
better, you know, in terms of like. She still

00:24:04.329 --> 00:24:06.210
has pain and stuff, but she's not nearly as bad

00:24:06.210 --> 00:24:09.190
as she was like a little over a year ago. And

00:24:09.190 --> 00:24:12.670
so when I think about all that stuff, and like

00:24:12.670 --> 00:24:14.670
I said, when this idea just kind of came to me

00:24:14.670 --> 00:24:17.630
about the whole ruck arthritis idea, I said,

00:24:17.650 --> 00:24:19.750
yeah, this is what I'm going to do. And so in

00:24:19.750 --> 00:24:22.049
looking some things up, like just as an example,

00:24:22.269 --> 00:24:27.170
the one rheumatologist for roughly every 11 ,000

00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:29.529
patients here in the US, that was a fact I got

00:24:29.529 --> 00:24:33.740
when I called basically the university of florida

00:24:33.740 --> 00:24:37.339
their research department for arthritis and i

00:24:37.339 --> 00:24:39.440
got this woman who has arthritis on the phone

00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:42.980
and she was telling me this you know and i was

00:24:42.980 --> 00:24:44.460
just kind of floored you know because that was

00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:46.160
another thing like early on that just kind of

00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.240
popped into my head like oh my god like that's

00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.059
insane you know because you're you're thinking

00:24:50.059 --> 00:24:52.059
well they're just you know are they lazy in this

00:24:52.059 --> 00:24:54.099
office is this why we don't hear from that doctor

00:24:54.099 --> 00:24:55.519
or is this you know you have those immediate

00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.900
kind of things yeah and then you start to realize

00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.859
They're just inundated, you know. And so anyway,

00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.400
so I, you know, put all that together. And then

00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.420
when I started thinking about the ruck and this

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:08.779
idea of doing the ruck, it just kind of made

00:25:08.779 --> 00:25:10.579
sense. Like I was kind of stealing one here from

00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:12.599
the canines where they do, you know, the whole

00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:17.619
9K for canines. You know what I mean? And so

00:25:17.619 --> 00:25:20.339
I said, we'll do, you know, a one miler for that

00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:23.740
one rheumatologist, you know. We'll do the 5K

00:25:23.740 --> 00:25:25.259
for the month of May because that's when the

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:28.440
awareness month is. And then the 11. is for the

00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.819
11 ,000 patients roughly that are suffering with

00:25:31.819 --> 00:25:34.259
this every day. And that'll be kind of the three

00:25:34.259 --> 00:25:36.920
things you can do. Pick any day you want. Go

00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.019
out as many times as you want. Just post about

00:25:39.019 --> 00:25:43.240
it. Have some fun posting with it. But yeah,

00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.900
that's really what kind of motivated that, I

00:25:45.900 --> 00:25:48.220
believe. Like I said, it's just thinking about

00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:52.849
watching her and what's going on with her. knowing

00:25:52.849 --> 00:25:55.529
that like looking at her, you know, sometimes

00:25:55.529 --> 00:25:58.289
in other people that I know might be in that

00:25:58.289 --> 00:26:00.609
same condition, it's not like they've got like

00:26:00.609 --> 00:26:03.349
a cast, you know, or some sign on that says I'm

00:26:03.349 --> 00:26:04.910
in pain right now, you know, because she doesn't

00:26:04.910 --> 00:26:07.490
always voice it to me or say something, you know,

00:26:07.490 --> 00:26:08.970
it's not like a thing where it's always in your

00:26:08.970 --> 00:26:11.289
face. And so it is kind of like, you're always

00:26:11.289 --> 00:26:13.470
reminding yourself of that too, you know, when

00:26:13.470 --> 00:26:15.430
you're doing different things, because the thing

00:26:15.430 --> 00:26:17.990
I've learned probably more so in the last year

00:26:17.990 --> 00:26:21.730
is to just kind of You know, are you OK to do

00:26:21.730 --> 00:26:23.430
this? Do you want to do this? You know, that

00:26:23.430 --> 00:26:25.089
kind of thing. There's a lot more checking in

00:26:25.089 --> 00:26:27.369
on things. Or if we're out doing something already,

00:26:27.609 --> 00:26:29.970
are you OK to do this? Do you want to do the

00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:31.450
other thing or do you want to wait? Like, what

00:26:31.450 --> 00:26:32.970
do you want to do? So there's a lot of that kind

00:26:32.970 --> 00:26:36.069
of stuff that has changed a bit, too. So but

00:26:36.069 --> 00:26:37.630
yeah, that's what kind of brought this thing

00:26:37.630 --> 00:26:41.930
on. And like I said, we have the patches, you

00:26:41.930 --> 00:26:43.509
know, because in the rucking community, that's

00:26:43.509 --> 00:26:45.390
kind of a big thing is the whole patch thing.

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.539
I love getting patches. I think they're cool.

00:26:50.919 --> 00:26:54.140
Coincidentally, if people are aware, we're using

00:26:54.140 --> 00:26:56.339
the same company that does Go Rucks patches.

00:26:56.660 --> 00:26:58.740
That's the company we're using for ours, so the

00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:01.039
quality will be right on par with what you'd

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:02.700
get if you've gotten a Go Ruck patch before at

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:08.900
an event. They were great. I'll just throw this

00:27:08.900 --> 00:27:11.180
out there. You get a couple other goodies in

00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:15.079
your bag when it shows up. We've got some sticker

00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:19.609
of the patch. the ruck forward sticker, this

00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:21.230
other little version of it. So those will be

00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:23.430
in there when we ship out patches to you. Awesome.

00:27:23.549 --> 00:27:26.869
Yeah. You mentioned something about, yeah, people

00:27:26.869 --> 00:27:29.089
with arthritis or other conditions that are,

00:27:29.089 --> 00:27:31.849
you know, quote unquote, like invisible. Yeah.

00:27:31.890 --> 00:27:33.369
You don't, you don't know what people are going

00:27:33.369 --> 00:27:34.609
through. You don't know how much pain they're

00:27:34.609 --> 00:27:36.130
experiencing. You don't, you don't know where

00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:38.569
they, you know, how much they slept last night

00:27:38.569 --> 00:27:41.269
because the sheet was on their foot, you know?

00:27:41.450 --> 00:27:44.849
Oh yeah. That's real. Yeah. It's, it's, it's

00:27:44.849 --> 00:27:47.259
tough. It's tough. More with Travis in just a

00:27:47.259 --> 00:27:48.960
moment, including how to complete the challenge

00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.480
yourself. But first, if you know a fellow rocker

00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.400
that has arthritis, please consider sharing this

00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.380
episode with them. It might provide them some

00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:57.519
encouragement that there's a community here trying

00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.819
to bring awareness and help fund research for

00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:02.819
that condition. Thanks. So you mentioned the

00:28:02.819 --> 00:28:08.400
1, 5, and 11K. How do people sign up for it?

00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.099
What do they need to do? Do they have to track

00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:14.460
their rock to submit data to you or just sign

00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:17.599
up via the website? Now, basically what I'm asking

00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.119
people to do is, you know, you go on the website,

00:28:20.420 --> 00:28:22.799
you purchase a patch, you know, once you get

00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.059
the patch, you know, pick whatever distance it

00:28:25.059 --> 00:28:26.660
is you want to do. If you want to do it a few

00:28:26.660 --> 00:28:29.940
times, go ahead, you know, and then just go out

00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:32.779
there, do the stuff, do a post, hold up the patch,

00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.359
put it on, hashtag Ruck Arthritis. And then,

00:28:37.380 --> 00:28:39.940
you know, after the end of, you know, probably

00:28:39.940 --> 00:28:43.220
May or so, we're going to take that. all those

00:28:43.220 --> 00:28:45.339
funds that were raised from those patch sales

00:28:45.339 --> 00:28:47.859
and donate that to the university of florida's

00:28:47.859 --> 00:28:51.500
foundation for arthritis research but the biggest

00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:53.980
thing is you know just Feel free to purchase

00:28:53.980 --> 00:28:56.779
a patch, go out, do a ruck, do a walk, you know,

00:28:56.779 --> 00:29:00.240
post about it, hashtag it. And that's really

00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.279
it. You know, I'm trying to keep it pretty straightforward.

00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.400
I'm sort of borrowing a little bit from like

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.460
what Kayla did with her challenge, where it was

00:29:06.460 --> 00:29:08.599
like, just pick 10 days, a wait and a distance

00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.259
and go, you know, this is a little different

00:29:11.259 --> 00:29:13.480
because we're tying some specific distances to

00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.059
things, but that's really it. I mean, that's

00:29:16.059 --> 00:29:17.920
the, that's kind of the gist of it right now.

00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:20.619
I was trying to keep it because everything was

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:23.960
kind of last minute. as simple as possible for

00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.940
everybody to participate in it. You know what

00:29:25.940 --> 00:29:27.839
I mean? I think because the more people we can

00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.200
get out there doing it is great. And then two

00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.019
talking about it, you know, so I really like

00:29:33.019 --> 00:29:35.599
that framework for the challenge. It's, it's

00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.980
open for pretty much. every fitness level yeah

00:29:38.980 --> 00:29:42.180
any you don't have to have any experience rucking

00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:44.240
you can do it whenever you want throughout the

00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.279
this month there's no time constraint so if you

00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.380
got time in your schedule fit it in and just

00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:52.880
and get out there yeah exactly so where do you

00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.079
see ruck forward going from here do you have

00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.599
other challenges in the future that you've planned

00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.160
yeah i think moving forward you know it's one

00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.640
of those things where i i look at some of these

00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.880
other possible ideas out there like i know just

00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.500
as an example there's like a rheumatoid arthritis

00:30:10.500 --> 00:30:12.599
i think it's either day or month coming up in

00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:16.039
the fall and i believe there's one other arthritis

00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.319
maybe it's world arthritis day i think that's

00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.900
coming up as well in the in the fall as well

00:30:20.900 --> 00:30:23.819
so i may do a variation of this then you know

00:30:23.819 --> 00:30:27.299
and and do something for it um and like i was

00:30:27.299 --> 00:30:29.220
mentioning earlier when it comes to like you

00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:31.349
know the boxer rescue You know, there might be

00:30:31.349 --> 00:30:33.849
some other things like that that I may just decide

00:30:33.849 --> 00:30:35.869
to do it. I think what it'll come down to is

00:30:35.869 --> 00:30:39.430
just how well do we kind of pick up steam here

00:30:39.430 --> 00:30:41.849
with things and getting the word out on this

00:30:41.849 --> 00:30:44.789
one and how successful is it? And then from there,

00:30:44.829 --> 00:30:46.710
kind of determining that. And then on the other

00:30:46.710 --> 00:30:49.450
side of it, as far as like that doesn't necessarily

00:30:49.450 --> 00:30:51.869
have anything to do with saying doing a challenge

00:30:51.869 --> 00:30:55.490
is like I was mentioning with the whole putting

00:30:55.490 --> 00:30:57.529
out little factoids, you know, about rucking.

00:30:58.250 --> 00:31:01.069
um having some fun with it you know just throwing

00:31:01.069 --> 00:31:03.329
ruck in there maybe you know maybe putting out

00:31:03.329 --> 00:31:05.410
even some posts where hey here's a playlist i

00:31:05.410 --> 00:31:08.710
love to listen to when i rock you know um and

00:31:08.710 --> 00:31:11.509
uh doing those types of things because i feel

00:31:11.509 --> 00:31:13.970
like there's such a it's just such a cool community

00:31:13.970 --> 00:31:16.089
because like the events i've been to at go ruck

00:31:16.089 --> 00:31:19.289
uh over in jacksonville everyone's great you

00:31:19.289 --> 00:31:21.170
know like you talk to the people from go ruck

00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:24.029
or just people that are there and everyone's

00:31:24.029 --> 00:31:26.150
just one willing to help out. You know what I

00:31:26.150 --> 00:31:27.890
mean? If you had like, when I went to that one

00:31:27.890 --> 00:31:29.730
in the fall, I had some questions and they were

00:31:29.730 --> 00:31:31.250
right on it, you know, like, yeah, yeah, this

00:31:31.250 --> 00:31:33.410
is what, you know, this is how you do this, you

00:31:33.410 --> 00:31:36.369
know, and being very helpful. And I, so I kind

00:31:36.369 --> 00:31:38.450
of feel like, you know, the ruck forward thing

00:31:38.450 --> 00:31:40.450
is, is hopefully going to kind of become like

00:31:40.450 --> 00:31:43.369
that resource, maybe that. It's just supplementary,

00:31:43.369 --> 00:31:47.230
rather, to, you know, people out there doing

00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.430
it that might be new to it, you know. And the

00:31:49.430 --> 00:31:51.829
other thing that I'm currently doing on the website,

00:31:52.069 --> 00:31:55.230
like, for instance, you know, on the Ruck Forward

00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:58.029
page where you can read about what this is, down

00:31:58.029 --> 00:31:59.750
at the bottom, you know, I put out a promotion

00:31:59.750 --> 00:32:01.769
any time I talk about Girl Ruck to whatever it

00:32:01.769 --> 00:32:04.390
is I'm talking about, you know. Same with...

00:32:04.670 --> 00:32:06.970
Uh, when it comes to like Kayla's book, you know,

00:32:06.990 --> 00:32:08.910
I put that down at the bottom as a good resource

00:32:08.910 --> 00:32:11.890
for people to look into, you know, um, same with

00:32:11.890 --> 00:32:14.069
like Jocko Wallink's book, you know, discipline

00:32:14.069 --> 00:32:16.369
equals freedom. That's another big one. More

00:32:16.369 --> 00:32:18.170
than likely Rucker's edge is going to end up

00:32:18.170 --> 00:32:20.650
in there as well. Just so you know, cause I mean,

00:32:20.690 --> 00:32:22.990
same with me promoting that stuff on my channel.

00:32:23.069 --> 00:32:25.190
Cause I just feel like, you know, like some of

00:32:25.190 --> 00:32:27.329
these things, you know, like for instance, Jocko's

00:32:27.329 --> 00:32:29.109
book, I mean, I wish I had read that years ago,

00:32:29.150 --> 00:32:31.940
but, uh, you know, it's. it's just one of those

00:32:31.940 --> 00:32:33.759
things. It's just another resource, you know?

00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.519
And I feel like anyone that's interested, you

00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.539
know, in doing this kind of activity or, you

00:32:38.539 --> 00:32:40.980
know, going out there and trying it, it's like,

00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:43.079
go ahead and take a look at a few things. You

00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:44.460
know, like when my brother was talking to me

00:32:44.460 --> 00:32:47.000
yesterday about it, I told him, I said, go to

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.039
their YouTube page and just kind of look around,

00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.180
you know, just titles may catch your attention.

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.319
They've obviously got a lot of the, I'll just

00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.839
call it basic stuff in there. Like, you know,

00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.019
this is how you, you know. how you should rock,

00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.819
you know, you put the bag on, cinch it tight,

00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.799
you know, that kind of stuff. And then I said,

00:33:02.819 --> 00:33:04.440
there's just some really cool videos on there,

00:33:04.460 --> 00:33:06.339
like about the Normandy rock they did. I think

00:33:06.339 --> 00:33:08.880
it was last year, um, which I thought was, that

00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.539
was one of those first videos I watched and I

00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:13.779
was just blown away. Like, wow, this is so cool.

00:33:13.859 --> 00:33:15.440
Cause I was once again, just getting introduced

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.869
to what they do, you know? And that one just

00:33:17.869 --> 00:33:20.049
caught my attention because it's Normandy. I'm

00:33:20.049 --> 00:33:22.470
a supporter of vets, that kind of stuff. I have

00:33:22.470 --> 00:33:25.549
vets in my family. And I watched that and I just

00:33:25.549 --> 00:33:27.670
sat there going, holy cow, that is too cool.

00:33:27.849 --> 00:33:31.490
Just go out and do these things. So yeah, I think

00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:33.049
that's kind of how I'm viewing it right now,

00:33:33.089 --> 00:33:35.869
man, is just sort of hopefully get some people

00:33:35.869 --> 00:33:39.210
out there doing it and giving them a place to

00:33:39.210 --> 00:33:42.089
go to either find some information from me or

00:33:42.089 --> 00:33:45.519
from someone else. Because like I said. I'm still

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.859
new to it and figuring things out too. And there

00:33:47.859 --> 00:33:49.619
are more and more resources getting out there

00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:51.440
about rucking, which has been really cool to

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.900
see. I feel like the rucking popularity is starting

00:33:54.900 --> 00:33:58.339
to pick up. What I've observed, it's seasonal.

00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.240
It obviously peaks in the summer and then in

00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.259
the winter when no one wants to get outside,

00:34:03.380 --> 00:34:05.579
it kind of goes back down. But outside of just

00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:08.179
the cyclical nature of it, more and more numbers

00:34:08.179 --> 00:34:12.070
are. added to that cycle. It's really cool to

00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:14.590
see more and more people rucking and having these

00:34:14.590 --> 00:34:17.070
challenges makes it accessible for people to

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:21.190
start. It's really, really cool. I've completed

00:34:21.190 --> 00:34:24.389
the 5K and I'll be submitting some information.

00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:27.570
We just recently did our first library ruck.

00:34:28.699 --> 00:34:30.559
Rucked there and back, picked up some books.

00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.300
I added probably 10 pounds. Nice. That was a

00:34:33.300 --> 00:34:35.800
fun thing. That's really cool. That's an awesome

00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.360
idea, man. Yeah, it just like worked out. We

00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:39.960
were like, we're talking about going to the library.

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And I was like, oh, I. let's walk let's rock

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like it was just like a progression like this

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just makes sense let's do this let's move our

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bodies and educate ourselves at the same time

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i think that this mission is excellent travis

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thanks so much for putting this on um i've already

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completed the challenge i'm gonna do a few more

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uh and i'll be posting about them but uh it was

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really nice meeting you travis thanks so much

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for taking the time to chat with me today Yeah,

00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:05.139
no problem at all, man. And like I said, I appreciate

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you doing this and getting the word out there.

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And hopefully, man, we'll get a cure. Hopefully

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they'll come up with something to cure this thing

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because I've said it before, the pain management

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thing is great if it works, but it's not fun.

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You know what I mean? It really isn't. So let's

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get out there, do some positive, fun stuff, have

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a good time doing it, and hopefully help some

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people. Agreed. Thanks again, Travis. Appreciate

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your time. All right, man. Thank you. All right,

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that wraps up my conversation with Travis. You

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can sign up for the challenge yourself at ruckforward

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.com. That's ruckfwd .com. You can connect with

00:35:40.610 --> 00:35:42.869
him at ruckforward on Instagram. I'll drop the

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link in the show notes. If you want to reach

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